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Tempers flare and bills languish as Speaker Johnson confronts the same problems that vexed McCarthy
Associated Press ^ | November 18, 2023 | Lisa Mascaro

Posted on 11/18/2023 11:34:45 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai

Bitch and moan to make a point, but 220 Rs in the house —likely not more than 1—would ever vote to replace after the last episode.

His head seems screwed on properly.


21 posted on 11/18/2023 12:01:39 PM PST by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: Olog-hai

I always expect miracles, but never would I ascribe them to any human being.


Me too FRiend and thanks for the correction.


22 posted on 11/18/2023 12:07:26 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: Olog-hai

how long was mccarthy speaker?


23 posted on 11/18/2023 12:15:21 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: moovova

He did no such thing. It is not even being reported that he released everything. Why have conservatives become just as bad as liberals at twisting the facts. I can’t even trust them anymore to tell the truth.

And have you heard the democrats screaming bloody murder this time about releasing video. No- that tells you all you need to know. The important stuff is in the videos that are reportedly being held back. And they have already told us that when it is released then the faces will be blurred out. Making it useless.

Do you know how you can get a small child to let go of a quarter. Just offer then a penny. That is how gullible conservatives have become.


24 posted on 11/18/2023 12:19:47 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

“Do you know how you can get a small child to let go of a quarter. Just offer then a penny. That is how gullible conservatives have become.”


So sad, and so true. The same in every country.


25 posted on 11/18/2023 12:27:32 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Olog-hai

A##holeciated depressed loves to stur the pot


26 posted on 11/18/2023 12:37:26 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Olog-hai

At this point we don’t know what the speaker’s strategy is until it plays out fully. Good attorneys don’t always make their end game self evident when entering into a negotiation or a court battle. Laying out an initial plan may merely be his method of taking stock of the situation.

He needs to move two groups to a middle ground. Testing them is part of the process.


27 posted on 11/18/2023 12:37:38 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Revel

If this was the simple answer to the past couple of years, then why did it take so long to implement? Why did Fox shut it down? Why not feed as thousands of hours of pre-filtered videos? Why didn’t McCarthy do this and save his but?


28 posted on 11/18/2023 12:41:19 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Olog-hai

AP is very, very concerned


29 posted on 11/18/2023 12:42:00 PM PST by Third Person
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To: Olog-hai

Stopped reading at ap.


30 posted on 11/18/2023 12:54:28 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LOBALISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All
Thank you for posting E. Pluribus Unum.

"The less legislation Congress passes, the better."


The key question concerning federal domestic policy is the following imo.

How many corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties and unconstitutional, unaccountable trillion dollar omnibus bills does it take to run the US Mail Service, one of the very few powers that the states have actually expressly constitutionally given the federal government to dictate domestic policy, most domestic policy now based on state powers that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds have stolen from the states?

I say none, no political parties or massive omnibus spending bills needed to deliver the mail.

That being said, the next major political event in USA is not hopeful Trump 47 being elected a third time, but Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots getting ready ASAP to support Trump campaign by primarying ALL state and federal, lawmakers and executives, except for MTG Gaetz & Company (and others?), for the 2024 primaries.

After all, lawmakers and executives continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.

In fact, if DC respected its constitutionally limited powers to deliver the mail, the worst problem that the country would otherwise be looking at with a new Congress of Trump-supporting freshman lawmakers is arguably that citizens that would ultimately get into the habit of lightheartedly questioning if the federal government has shutdown if they receive their mail a few days late.

Trump can endorse candidates from lists that patriots who respect the federal government's constitutionally limited powers provide for him, as long as candidates are not incumbents, candidates also promising to repeal the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments after they win office.

Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for victim taxpayers of the unconstitutionally big federal government for having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.

The definition of insanity is reelecting your beloved career state and federal lawmakers and executives over and over again, expecting those same politicians to find remedies for unconstitutional government policies every time.

Let's not allow ourselves to be fooled for third time in 2024 by the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments.

Finally, consider that probably the main reason that we hear media complaints about the electoral college is that it is the only thing stopping the corrupt political parties from establishing a permanent puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.

31 posted on 11/18/2023 12:54:51 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The less legislation Congress passes, the better.

That's always been the case in my mind. When these talking-head idiots talk about congress only passing seven bills, I personally think that's seven too many.

Lib'rul idiots think thats too few and wants HUNDREDS every Congress!

Not just NO but HELL NO! Gridlock is GOOD. It means they're not passing more laws that restrict our freedoms!

32 posted on 11/18/2023 12:55:11 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Third Person

AP = America’s Pravda


33 posted on 11/18/2023 12:57:29 PM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Raycpa

The concept of “middle ground” is what got us in trouble in the first place.

Of course, Mascaro’s grievances are laughable.


34 posted on 11/18/2023 1:07:42 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Anything from the AP is automatically assumed to be BS. They are as far left commie as they can go.


35 posted on 11/18/2023 1:28:53 PM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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To: usconservative

Lefties want government to be a pyramid scheme with them at the top.


36 posted on 11/18/2023 1:48:37 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Olog-hai

It is not House rules.

It is GOP conference rules. A MAJORITY OF THE CONFERENCE supported the CR.

Johnson could not deny that majority a vote. THAT would be a violation of the GOP rules. Yup


37 posted on 11/18/2023 2:11:57 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I am indeed aware of how RINOs work. No need to reiterate.


38 posted on 11/18/2023 2:16:50 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
The concept of “middle ground” is what got us in trouble in the first place.

Then your beef is with the founders who created a system that only works two ways. 1) all parties (House, Senate, President) agree 2) Civil war.

39 posted on 11/18/2023 2:29:44 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Olog-hai

“I am indeed aware of how RINOs work. No need to reiterate.”

But you take umbrage, as if there is a reasonable alternative.


40 posted on 11/18/2023 2:51:05 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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