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To: Conservat1

It is sad that so many people in the US are questioning our help and demanding that Israel be throttled by US political pressure.

EVERYTHING we pretend to be a cause or justification in Ukraine, is actually valid for Israel and not for Ukraine.

It is Israel with whom we have security agreements, three of them, plus a SOFA. It is that Israel that is a true republic, a democracy, a sovereign nation. It is Israel that was attacked. It is Israel that is facing off with an enemy bent on their destruction, unwilling to truly compromise (Rabin promised them almost everything they wanted, to the point where he himself was assassinated for going to far, and Arafat still said “no.”) Israel faces a foe that wants their nation destroyed and it’s people dead, literally.

Ukraine is about us building bases all along the Russian border and in what Russia sees as us lying about NATO East expansion, stripping away all their oil producing frontier nations (Syria, Venezuela, Iraq and Libya), us having left the ballistic missile treaty and ignoring Minsk. Russia didn’t even really want this war, they see it as a national security threat and this war would have NEVER happened had we not tried to expand NATO into Ukraine. This caused a war and it was 100% avoidable, it was simply a political gamble: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/

Meanwhile Israel is faced with a threat where no promise or agreement means anything, they were surprise attacked, their enemy does want their destruction, and they did not provoke this conflict... EVERYTHING we talk about regards Ukraine which is not entirely true, actually is true with Israel, and you have protests against them.

*** Today you see protests against support for Israel, demanding Israel back off, blaming Israel for the conflict, focused on the collateral damage caused by Israel... and with Ukraine you have, or at least had for almost 2 years, a blank check and total US public support with one sided media coverage and even mass censorship.

I don’t see the Israeli flags going up today, but if there is a nation we owe anything too (contractual, morally, or because they are culturally tied to us), Israel would be one of them.

America is a nation where you can tell the people there are 68 different genders (https://www.healthline.com/health/different-genders#what-gender-identity-is) or that the notion of God is silly but they should believe that aliens seeded the earth because that’s more believable (https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2021/04/07/was-life-on-earth-brought-here-from-an-alien-system/?sh=2be2ab6264e2) and many people will believe it. You can tell Americans pretty much anything and as long as you tell them using faux science, use lots of repetition, target their racial/ethnic/sex/age demographic, use bandwagon and celebrity endorsement it’ll get traction, ESPECIALLY if you can create an emotional story. In America, emotions win over reason almost always. Sad and telling reality about us. The basis or substance behind the argument is less important.

The Palestinians have the emotional story.


13 posted on 11/19/2023 12:22:43 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6
I don’t see the Israeli flags going up today, but if there is a nation we owe anything too (contractual, morally, or because they are culturally tied to us), Israel would be one of them.

Hear hear!

22 posted on 11/19/2023 1:58:28 PM PST by blu (Bagster's ping on the side)
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