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To: grey_whiskers

grey_whiskers wrote: “Your article said (verbatim cut and paste) “Over 20 years, there were 1,102 deaths in these student athletes, with sudden cardiac death being the cause in 143 cases.””

grey_whiskers wrote: “The other articles are talking about sudden deaths including non-NCAA ( high school and professional): and not all of those would show up on the sources your $hot$hill puff piece relied on.”

You mean like these bogus lists and articles:
“Both Wheeler and Gold cited a letter to the editor published in the Scandinavian Journal of Immunology that was co-authored by Dr. Peter McCullough, another prominent purveyor of COVID-19 misinformation. Although its publication may give the letter a veneer of legitimacy, the letter did not include any original research, as suggested by Fox News commentator Tucker Carlson. Rather, it relied upon an arbitrary list of athlete deaths maintained on an anonymous website that we wrote about shortly after it appeared online in late 2021.”

“As we explained before, the list includes students, professionals, amateurs, coaches and retirees. It includes people who died by suicide, car crash and drug overdose.”

“The list does not — in nearly all cases — include the vaccination status of the deceased, let alone prove any causal relationship between vaccines and the deaths. In fact, as we’ve previously reported, some of the deaths initially listed happened before the vaccines had even become available to the age category for the person listed.””

“Wheeler and Gold, though, each shared an image that highlighted a portion of the letter comparing the number of deaths listed on the anonymous website with the number of sudden cardiac deaths among athletes that had appeared in academic literature over a 38-year period as compiled in a 2006 paper. The two figures reflect different criteria. One number is very broad and includes anyone with a passing relationship to sports who died for any reason since 2021, while the other is conspicuously narrow and includes only the deaths of athletes that were analyzed in English-language academic research papers.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/


24 posted on 11/30/2023 3:33:01 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Factcheck.org, a liberal bastion, on quoted as authoritative and disposative on FR.

Troll.

Roll us some more brown boulders, Dung Beetle.


25 posted on 11/30/2023 4:12:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DugwayDuke

I’ve read your link.

Smears, sloppy writing, character assassination, and innuendo, while talking as though it is, SCIENCE!™

Your authoritative source says it monitors high school and college athletes: and from that, states authoritatively that there is no rise in deaths — even among groups it has not studied.

Which by definition is not, and cannot be SCIENTIFIC!™ despite their wanking off over wearing white lab coats. And one of the authors’being associated with the Seattle Seahawks lends an emotional air of authority without actually doing anything.

Nice try, but your attempt findrae yourself up to someone else’s full height and shooting “SCIENCE!™” only reveals the desperation of those paying you.

(The truth is all of these lists are applied sociology: the supposed trump card that one of the athletes on the list initially blamed the clot shots, but then recanted, could just as easily be the result of management putting pressure on him to recant, as his renouncing a supposedly hysterical claim: such hysteria being implied without being stated.)


27 posted on 11/30/2023 5:52:49 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DugwayDuke; aMorePerfectUnion

30 posted on 11/30/2023 7:17:33 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DugwayDuke
By the way, Dung Beetle, you forgot this in your haste to DEBOOOOOOOONK.

We also note that many posts in Facebook, Instagram, twitter, forums and news stories are being removed. So now we are receiving some messages saying there is no proof of the event or of vaccination status. That is partly because this information is being hidden.

More people are writing to tell us that in many cases, we didn’t mention a person’s vaccination status. There is a good reason for that. While everyone thought it was great marketing for them and a way of virtue-signalling, they bragged about their vaccination status. Now, none of the clubs want to reveal this information. None of their sponsors want to reveal it. The government doesn’t want it. Insurance companies aren’t asking for it. The players have been told not to reveal it. Most of the players’ relatives will not mention it. None of the media are asking this question. So what should we do? Stop this now? No, we will collect as much information as we can, while it is still available, because eventually, more information will come out, and we will be here to put it together.

Will it mean anything? We don’t know. What we do know is that there is a concerted world-wide effort to make this information go away, so that fact alone tells us it must be collected, investigated and saved so other researchers can look at it to see if there are any useful patterns. This may be one of the understatements of the century

In other words, they are *preserving evidence*.

Unlike the clot-shot pushers, who have managed to get some doctors/scientists locked out of their labs, and have threatened others with arrest if they attempt to chemically analyze the contents of the clot shots, from left over vials whose provenance/chain of custody is intact.

That is *not* science (letting the chips fall where they may) but of control.

Yhe sources you pull from, typically use the words like "baseless" and "unfounded" and "misinformation" and "influencers".

This is not the language of science, but of a Fascist(*) propaganda push.

I upped my game. Now up yours!

(*) literally, business acting at the behest of the state to advance state goals.

31 posted on 11/30/2023 8:23:52 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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