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Russians' Support for Ukraine War Hits Rock Bottom: Poll
Newsweek ^ | Dec. 1, 2023 | Brendan Cole

Posted on 12/01/2023 5:28:25 AM PST by canuck_conservative

However, a poll by the research group Chronicles indicates that, ahead of the 2024 election, Putin might have an uphill battle in maintaining the population's support for the war as they feel its economic consequences. The survey found that pro-war Russians are a minority and were outnumbered by those who favor peace.

It found that the core of support for the war was only 12 percent, compared with 22 percent in February, one year after the start of what the Kremlin calls a "special military operation."..

More than half (52 percent) of respondents said they experienced anxiety or depression, an increase from 32 percent in March 2022, a month after the invasion started. A main reason for dissatisfaction with the war is the financial concerns that Russian households are facing...

This week, Putin announced a significant increase in military spending. About 30 percent of the Russian budget will be directed toward the armed forces in 2024.

The poll found that 44 percent of respondents have experienced a decrease in family income, while 20 percent said crucial medicines are no longer available. Only 5 percent expected their income would improve because of an increase in military spending in 2024...

He went on: "The whole country has been brought up on stories of the Second World War, about how horrible it was, and now their government has started one.

"So of course people are shocked. They push it as far as possible from their conscience, from their attention, and when they feel the practical consequences of what is happening, it is once again actualized for them," he said.

The number of respondents who would not accept withdrawal from Ukraine without reaching military goals decreased from 47 percent in February 2023 to 33 percent in October 2023.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 22ndmonth; 3daywar; brendancole; decliningsupport; ithoughtrussiawon; newsweak; putingenius; putinsblunder; putinsfolly; russia; weaknews
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The longer it goes on, the more unpopular it gets

Almost 2 years now, with minimal gains ... another mobilization won't go down well ...

1 posted on 12/01/2023 5:28:25 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Total and complete BS. Laughable disinfo.


2 posted on 12/01/2023 5:29:52 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Of course you hard-core Putin stooges are going to say that

As predictable as the sunrise!


3 posted on 12/01/2023 5:33:33 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: canuck_conservative; hardspunned

Project much?


4 posted on 12/01/2023 5:35:55 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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its Rock Bottom: Poll, canuck_conservative wrote: Of course you hard-core Putin stooges are going to say that

Says the hardcore FJB/Soros stooge.

5 posted on 12/01/2023 5:36:23 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: canuck_conservative

The war is NOT between Ukraine and Russia, nor is it ZelenskySkySky and Putin.

It is very much the DSC versus patriots in many nations.


6 posted on 12/01/2023 5:37:17 AM PST by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: canuck_conservative
a poll by the research group Chronicles

Chronicles research group doesn't exist.

7 posted on 12/01/2023 5:37:50 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: canuck_conservative
Darth Putin @DarthPutinKGB

Months - 21

Casualties - 315,000🌻

Victories - 0

Ruble - 💩🧻

Economy - 🚽

War crimes - ♾

NATO - Can’t get closer

Baltic - NATO pond

Warships - Submarines

Ammo - 🇰🇵

Crimea - 💥🤯

Hospitals - Bombed

Dnipro - Crossed

Red lines - Crossed

I remain a master strategist.

8 posted on 12/01/2023 5:38:09 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; C210N; hardspunned

You Putin apologists are always triggered by even the slightest negative news about Russia

Makes my day!


9 posted on 12/01/2023 5:38:32 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: canuck_conservative
A map of the New and Improved Ukraine


10 posted on 12/01/2023 5:41:24 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: canuck_conservative

You FJB/Soros apologists are always triggered by even the slightest negative news about Z-Man and his money-laundering operation.

Makes my day!


11 posted on 12/01/2023 5:42:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: JonPreston

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Group-chronicles%3A-a-tool-for-collaborative-analysis-Marcolino-Reali/a17072757bb030c7ef4977a289ae35bea9aed71d


12 posted on 12/01/2023 5:43:18 AM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: hardspunned

Who did they poll? biden’s banker? canada ? umc? ...


13 posted on 12/01/2023 5:44:02 AM PST by farmguy ( )
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To: roving

Give me a hand with your link


14 posted on 12/01/2023 5:46:47 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: canuck_conservative

There has been much talk about Russia’s military capability and I agree that it is formidable. But there has been little consideration about the cost. Even if Russia were to win and achieve all of its goals, would it be worth it?


15 posted on 12/01/2023 6:02:48 AM PST by Petrosius
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--- "Chronicles research group doesn't exist."

Actually it does. And in looking further it is very interesting. From both the Cole article in Newsweek and beyond, one finds....

"...Moscow-based research group asked 1,199 adults across Russia a series of questions in a phone poll between October 17 and 22...." Newsweek. This is of course a push poll, as we are most familiar with in US politics.

...and later in the Newsweek article....

"Another poll out this week, by the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center and the Levada Center, found that Russians were getting tired of the war but were divided about how to end it. Sixty-eight percent of Russians support continuing the war..." One may then understand why the one poll in featured as a headline, and the other submerged into the bottom of the article. They diverge wildly.

A simple "mouse over" all the red-colored links in this Newsweek article look informative, until one notices all consistently link to other Newsweek articles, rather than -- say -- "the research group Chronicles." Clicking on all the Newsweek links brings on to more Newsweek article along with their additional "hits" for advertising. A direct link to Chronicles or Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center would yield no additional "click" revenue. Newsweek seems to like to reference itself, first and foremost.

So....

Chronicles has a very accessible website -- Chronicles - About Us

London-based Cole's article for Newsweek did not link to them. Chronicles states, "Our goal is to change public opinion about the war. Propaganda speaks of almost unconditional support for the war by citizens of the Russian Federation, but in reality everything is radically more complicated: the level of support is lower than 'official' opinion polls show, and this support is not at all what it seems. We will spend all donations made in cryptocurrency on conducting opinion polls and creating analytics."

It is opposition politics, and the Kremlin's current regime has not seen fit to crack down on them, putting them out of business. It is push polling, as we know well here in the US, used by various political parties during campaign seasons and for policy promotions. Their data is via "anonymized data sets" available on GitHub. That link is -- dorussianswantwar.

It seems interesting that Cole's Newsweek article is aimed at the first paragraphs being read, while the "bottom of the fold" (if this were a newspaper) other poll is in direct contrast.

Interesting. Activist polling. Activist journalism. Expecting the first paragraphs to be read, and the "more" to remain unread.

No wonder. The last poll stated :Sixty-eight percent of Russians support continuing the war." Yup.

16 posted on 12/01/2023 6:07:54 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: canuck_conservative

Sez the big guy shill. Tell me, are you identifying as your typical Bushite neocon warmonger today? Or are you prancing around in your newfound woke, green, pervo globalist stooge identity?


17 posted on 12/01/2023 6:18:28 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
No wonder. The last poll stated :Sixty-eight percent of Russians support continuing the war." Yup.

LOL, sure older russian people support war

Young russians:


18 posted on 12/01/2023 6:27:44 AM PST by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: canuck_conservative

Believing anything let alone poll numbers out of Russia probably doesn’t make much sense.
The only budget item that has increased for Russia besides military is internal “security”

What Russians think is about as impossible to understand to a westerner is Islam.

Even if they think this it is highly unlikely that most will say it, they no what will happen. Criticism of the military, the war er ah SMO, and Putin is verboten

Besides the only opinions that matter are the ethnic Russians in St. Petersburg and Moscow regions, the rest know where they stand

The relative lessening of the oppressive state just prior to collapse of Soviet Union and protests against the afghan war I am sure is still fresh in putins mind.

I am of the opinion that the major reason for the war was Putin did not want another prosperous western aligned country on his border, not because of military threat, but people esp in the east seeing the dichotomy between them the western countries and white Russia….oh and resources


19 posted on 12/01/2023 6:31:53 AM PST by blitz128
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To: tlozo
Thanks for the RBGs.

Really big graphics, as if these are adequate debate / discussion materials.

I merely quoted the Newsweek article's last citation of a poll. Why would you think that requires your RBGs to me? Complain to Brendan Cole and Newsweek if the article's actual citations are upsetting you.

Here are the contact info you need. "You can get in touch with Brendan by emailing b.cole@newsweek.com or follow on him on his X account @brendanmarkcole."

Go for it. Let us know what Brendan Cole has to say, if you send him you RBGs.

20 posted on 12/01/2023 6:33:11 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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