Posted on 12/03/2023 2:15:47 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
.....This former accountant told me about one friend's death and seeing a man's fingers sheared off by shrapnel as he delivered water to families sheltering in basements. 'War is pure hell,' she said through tears, but insisted they had to win.
These are words I heard repeatedly, this shift to an acceptance that the war might last a long time and scornful dismissal Ukraine might contemplate anything but recovery of all its lands after suffering such pain. 'A peace deal is never discussed. We've sacrificed too much. Would all the young people have died for a peace deal?' said Maria Avdeeva, a cyber-security expert. 'It would feel like you were a traitor to the memory of all those who lost their lives.'
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Manic Pixie, Cloud Nine, United States, 6 hours agoVersus....Brighter than ever? For the past 2 years, you misled people who couldnt be bothered doing their own research by telling them that Ukraine was on the brink of some major breakthrough and that the Russians were incompetent, out of ammo, out of equipment, and out of men. You never showed the Ukraines numerous losses as you constantly inflated Russian losses to comical levels. Those of us who said that Ukraine does not stand a chance against a nuclear former superpower were called trolls and sympathizers. As for Dec 1 2023, there are approximately 650K, yeah, 650,000 Russian military personnel stationed in and around the occupied territories. Meanwhile you show us Ukraine striking civilian buildings in Russia with drones as though this is some major victory. Enough lies please. 120 billion of US taxpayer dollars that could have been spent on literally anything but this farce.
Johny Eng1ander, Manchester, United Kingdom, 1 hour agoWhat is certain is that the clicks will generate nice advertising income for Daily Mail.Military aid to Ukraine is the best uses of my taxes there has ever been. As for the Russian economy its in tatters. The only thing it sells is oil to China and India who both insist on paying in Yuan and Rupees so Russia can only buy products from China and India with it. What little production capacity Russia has is hampered by all its young men either fleeing the country or being called up. High tech supplies are now very limited due to sanctions. The few that arrive through devious means are very expensive. Meanwhile on the battlefield, Ukraine has a firm bridgehead across the Dinipro and continues to degrade the Russian military capacity, especially its modern equipment. To see who is winning take a look at equipment losses at Oryx. This war will only end one way and that is Russian defeat and collapse. Slava Ukraini
And the morale of the story is...
But will Ukraine have enough octogenarian women to defeat Russia?
You spotted that too, eh?
Nothing shows a careful poster as much as someone (1) who changes the original title, and (2) confuses “morale” with “moral”!
I guess the Daily Mail is printing this because the world knows that the Washington Post is just CIA drivel. They have to get picked up elsewhere to have their propaganda work. The daily Mail doesn’t care whether something is true. They just want content so people have a chance to click on Some B level starlets ass.
Sounds like the propaganda is building up to push the new Uke money through.
The USAAF and the RAF had flattened Berlin before the Red Army got there. All they did was make the rubble bounce.
The issue with Russians is that they are not stupid. They have the land they want now. Sure they could tweak a few things. Solidify an area or two. But they now hold what they want to hold. Now all is left is for the west to get tired. You can do that by killing Ukraine soldiers. There is not an unlimited supply.
Think of it as a python. They have their pray in their grip. All they need to do is wait. There is no escape. Russia has no choices. They already have their army there. They already have their navy there. They already put up with sanctions from before the war. There is no reason to give up their grip. So they won’t But they do have all the time in the world and far more soldiers.
doesn’t look like Ukraine is tiring or its resolve weakening
Nazi Germany had lots’o’occupied land in 1942 too ... how did that work out?
When the new Uke conscription law is announced, dragging Ukes ages 17-70 including students, plus women, to the battlefront, the world may get a peek behind the western propaganda of how popular it is in Lviv and Kiev to die in and for the Donbass.
When Putin tries his next mobilization and another million Russians flee the country, we’ll get a peek at how unpopular the war really is in Russia
This is not world war two, or anything like it. This is the second most powerful country in the world taking a neighboring area with an ethnic and Russian speaking population. At least the population that is left there.
We can bomb it. But the Russians don’t care. They just want us out. They don’t need to live there. So we would be just killing those who we say we are defending. The reality is, we are the invaders here. We have been screwing around with, corrupting and controlling Ukraine for decades.
We can’t really ever win this by spilling billions of dollars in Ukraine only to end up with a highly corrupt society that will sell itself back to the Russians anyway.
We are not the good guys here. In fact there are no good guys here.
uh, “we’re” not in there, this is a fight between Russian and Ukraine
We have “advisors” there. We have intelligence there. We have left 100 billion dollars there, along with our weapons.
We are very much there. We may not have boots on the ground but we have a lot of shoes there.
Agree.
....LOL....! ya beat me to the keyboard...!! gad.....does anybody do any meaningful proofreading these days, or is it just plain ignorance.....
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