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UPenn President and Board Chair Resign After Refusal to Condemn Antisemitism
PJ Media ^ | 12/10/23 | RICK MORAN

Posted on 12/10/2023 7:40:10 AM PST by cotton1706

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This woman worded her answer poorly.

The correct answer is:

The First Amendment’s protection of free speech is extremely powerful. A casual call for genocide of anyone is not some sort of punishable crime — because of the overriding protection of freedom of speech. This is the context of the circumstance. Freedom of speech transcends calls for genocide because there is no immediate translation of such a thing into danger or violence. It’s not yelling fire in a crowded theater. It’s words on a computer screen.

She could have worded things better. She’s losing her career over this and that is an injustice.


21 posted on 12/10/2023 8:18:18 AM PST by Owen (.)
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To: Owen
Your comments regarding the First Amendment are flawed.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

IOW, the First Amendment is there to protect citizens from the government. The reaction to Magill's comments had nothing to do with her free speech rights.

22 posted on 12/10/2023 8:26:20 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: cotton1706

Mossad has a very long list to knock out.


23 posted on 12/10/2023 8:29:53 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Liz

The icing on the cake was Magill’s self-satisified smirk as she was answering the questions.


24 posted on 12/10/2023 8:43:05 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Owen

She could have worded things better. She’s losing her career over this and that is an injustice.


The other thing is that Ivy League schools have criminalized speech contrary to “The Narrative” and even microagressions over the last 15 years. However, only if you belong to a “privileged” group. If you are viewed as an “oppressor”, it’s open season on you.


25 posted on 12/10/2023 8:45:40 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Spok

Looks like giving women the right to vote has brought some seriously unpleasant results.
Stop women’s suffrage now! 🤣
/S


26 posted on 12/10/2023 8:49:44 AM PST by 9422WMR
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To: cotton1706

Aw, she was worn down? Poor widdle baby.

Begone, bigot!


27 posted on 12/10/2023 8:52:19 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: cotton1706

“Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never required a lawyer to express an opinion.” Amen.

What makes Bok’s excuse especially silly is that McGill is herself a LAWYER and law professor. What she said is almost certainly her own opinion (i.e., that advocating genocide for Jews is acceptable at UPENN because they “deserve” it) and she lacked the sophistry skills to paper over that with the First Amendment. Stephanik knows how to aim the flashlight at roaches.

To riff on Clemenseau, the lefties have gone from liberalism directly to fascism without passing through humanity.


28 posted on 12/10/2023 8:59:19 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: pepsionice

I suspect whoever is the new campus ‘boss’...


I’m willing to bet that the new boss won’t be a normal white man. Check enough ‘diversity’ boxes and he or she cannot be fired.


29 posted on 12/10/2023 9:11:38 AM PST by hanamizu ( )
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To: cotton1706

The S-word is Mightier Than the Penn.


30 posted on 12/10/2023 9:13:07 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: Bigg Red

Stop highering feminsta activists - would be a good start to clean up this mess.


31 posted on 12/10/2023 9:47:17 AM PST by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: cotton1706

Magill still retains her tenure teaching position at U of P.

So a loss of face but still available to infect the thinking of the student body.


32 posted on 12/10/2023 9:51:56 AM PST by beekay (Missing Trump yet? )
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To: RouxStir

See my post #20

SHe may still be a professor as long as she is assigned to field work in Syria with ISIS.


33 posted on 12/10/2023 10:37:56 AM PST by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>,<a href="">tag</a>)
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To: caww

I agree.


34 posted on 12/10/2023 11:30:24 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: cotton1706
“Over-prepared and over-lawyered given the hostile forum and high stakes, she provided a legalistic answer to a moral question, and that was wrong. It made for a dreadful 30-second sound bite in what was more than five hours of testimony.”

Or, they’re all just horrible people…

35 posted on 12/10/2023 11:55:19 AM PST by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: Owen

That take seems over-lawyered to the point of losing the thread. This is not about the right to speak, it is about the right to intimidate.

The part of the First Amendment at issue in this situation is the Establishment of a State Religion, not the vagaries of the level of violence inherent in the words themselves.

If there is a government-operated institution policy designed to limit bullying and harassment, and it is applied by said institution to certain relatively mild expressions inherent in one religion and not applied to extreme expressions inherent in another, then it is for all intents and purposes establishment of the moral supremacy of the favored religion.

Or in this case, amoral supremacy.

I agree with you that allowing abhorrent speech is vital to a free society. However, the United States hasn’t had a free society for over 100 years. At this point the battle needs to be forcing the Karens to live under the idiotic rules they force upon others.


36 posted on 12/10/2023 12:44:51 PM PST by Go_Raiders (An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna)
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To: cotton1706

SNL tried to mock Republican Elise Stefanik for exposing Ivy League’s softness towards anti-semitism and it did NOT go well for them
https://notthebee.com/article/snl-tried-to-mock-republican-elise-stefanik-for-exposing-ivy-leagues-softness-towards-anti-semitism-and-it-did-not-go-well-for-them/


37 posted on 12/10/2023 1:51:51 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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