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Is Gen Z turning against Western civilisation?
Spiked ^ | Joel Kotkin

Posted on 12/10/2023 9:25:20 AM PST by FarCenter

The younger generations seem increasingly crazed. A worrying proportion of the young sympathises with those who launch terror attacks against Israel, supports the immediate elimination of fossil fuels or demands the wiping out of gender distinctions. All these positions are troubling in themselves, but they also reflect a deeper malady – a mostly apolitical breakdown of social norms, personal interaction, literacy and logical thinking.

No single issue has catalysed Gen Z, as the Vietnam War did for the Baby Boomer generation. Boomers were angry but did not generally despair about their futures, which turned out reasonably well, buoyed by the creation of new jobs, rising property and stock prices. In contrast, most younger people dread almost everything that lies ahead. The majority of them, according to a Lancet study, see the entire planet as doomed by climate change.

This negative take on the future shows that the young are being poorly served in numerous ways, notably by the economy. Only 36 per cent of voters in a new Wall Street Journal / NORC survey say the American Dream still holds true, a feeling that is even more pronounced among younger people. Currently, less than half of millennials are doing better financially than their parents were at the same stage in life. This is the first time a generation has fallen behind its elders in recent history. About seven in 10 Americans think that young adults today have a harder time than their parents’ generation when it comes to saving for the future (72 per cent), paying for college (71 per cent) and buying a home (70 per cent), according to a 2021 report by the Pew Research Centre.

The decline in homeownership – which nearly three in five young people see as an essential part of the American Dream – is especially damaging. Homeownership roots people in their community, forces them to mature and is closely tied to the desire to start a family. According to US Census Bureau data, the rate of homeownership among young adults at ages 25 to 34 was 45 per cent for Generation X. This has dropped to 37 per cent for millennials, the generation that should now be starting to have families. In the UK, house prices hit a record high last year, while the rate of homeownership among people under 35 halved between 1997 and 2017.

The trends are similarly worrying in the world of work. Despite labour shortages that are likely to get worse, real wages have not surpassed costs for most people living in the US, the EU, Japan and the UK. In the US, men’s labour participation is now lower than in 1940, when unemployment was three times higher. Labour-participation rates for young men have suffered a particularly steep drop from over 80 per cent in the 1980s to barely 60 per cent now.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilization; culture; education; genche; genz; indoctrination
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1 posted on 12/10/2023 9:25:20 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

Being a sovereign individual is hardwork.


2 posted on 12/10/2023 9:26:18 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: FarCenter

Yes


3 posted on 12/10/2023 9:27:56 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: FarCenter

They’re gonna get what they asked to; the collapse of Western civ. The white ones (especially the women) can the live as second class citizens ruled by their third world illegal hispanic/Muslim overlords.


4 posted on 12/10/2023 9:27:56 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: brownsfan

Yes, they are.


5 posted on 12/10/2023 9:29:09 AM PST by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: FarCenter

“””No single issue has catalysed Gen Z, as the Vietnam War did for the Baby Boomer generation.”””

Of all age groups, the boomers were the biggest supporters of the war and 10,000,000 served in the military, and Vietnam was fought overwhelmingly by volunteers, I’m not so sure we see that in Gen Z.


6 posted on 12/10/2023 9:30:41 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: FarCenter

I think the government schools have successfully convinced a lot of young people that all of the bad things in life (racism, hatred, class differences, privileges, poverty, etc.) are coming from Western Civilization.

If only we could destroy Western Civilization, we could return to the communist utopia that was enjoyed in darkest Africa and in the Meso-American cultures of Mexico. Where everyone was always happy.


7 posted on 12/10/2023 9:32:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: FarCenter

Islam will conquer the West.


8 posted on 12/10/2023 9:32:18 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: FarCenter

Mission accomplished.


9 posted on 12/10/2023 9:33:54 AM PST by nwrep
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To: FarCenter

Gen Z: marching toward living in the squalor they’d like to become accustomed to as muslims where education is free and consists of memorizing a single book.


10 posted on 12/10/2023 9:35:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: FarCenter

Inflation brought on by government spending has a tendency to put a damper on things. SS, Medicare/caid, wars, MIC spending, climate boondoggles, corporate giveaways, welfare for illegals, the list goes on. All of this brought to US by progs beginning in the early 20th century. Every generation since has added on. I see no way out of this. Everyone is going to hurt when it comes crashing down. Gen Z won’t be alone.


11 posted on 12/10/2023 9:37:03 AM PST by ChuckHam
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To: FarCenter

Is this embracing of socialistic and communist tendencies a result of teachers oriented that way????? And are the teachers becoming more and more that way a result of college and universities which are infested with communist ideology??? a la what we saw in the Ivy League university presidents in Congress this week!


12 posted on 12/10/2023 9:39:53 AM PST by elpadre
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To: FarCenter

The white liberal woman is the greatest threat to western civilization. Liberalism feeds on emotionalism. Societal rot stems from this political disease. Women on the right are quite formadible but the deep state is a leviathan.


13 posted on 12/10/2023 9:40:24 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: FarCenter

the children do not learn history, civics, and very little about our forebears in Europe.

They are truly ignorant. It is shocking to see how little fund of knowledge they have.


14 posted on 12/10/2023 9:40:54 AM PST by OpusatFR
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To: FarCenter
They don't appreciate it because they have never been anywhere that was not under it's civilizing influence.

They think that all the benefits they have just are the way things are naturally rather then the absolute miracle that they are and which are maintained by the hard work of people they never see.

This year again the girls ran a road side fruit and vegetable stand. They worked very hard at it and saw that work. What they did not see is the amount of work that happened just so it was possible for two teen age girls to make money by selling what they had raised.

Let start with the fact they had excess food to sell, the fact they had cleared land to grow this excess food, that no bands of raiders were marching across that land, trampling their crops into the ground. And that does not even touch on the monetary system, the roads, the fact that two teens can be out beside the road without fear of being snatched or just murdered for fun. This, through much of human history was not the case.

It is not the case in much of the world.

But all of these systems need to be maintained.

And that is where we are falling down on the job. They can not maintain what they can not see.

15 posted on 12/10/2023 9:42:52 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( In a quaint alleyway, they graciously signaled for a vehicle on the main road to lead the way. )
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To: Levy78

Look at all the white girls who are libs. Then they get to 25 and want the suburbs. The guys they blew off for 10 years now look appealing with a house and car and some kind of shave.

Go Tik-Tok dance your way to Section 8.


16 posted on 12/10/2023 9:43:30 AM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: FarCenter
All these positions are troubling in themselves, but they also reflect a deeper malady – a mostly apolitical breakdown of social norms, personal interaction, literacy and logical thinking.

They are just going to have to learn the hard way.

17 posted on 12/10/2023 9:45:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man)
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Most of them aren’t white so I doubt they have much of an attachment to Western Civilization.


18 posted on 12/10/2023 9:47:17 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: FarCenter

On Reddit I saw a pretty reasonable post from someone that they had put up on r/antiwork. So I’m thinking maybe despite the name, not everyone there us a raving lunatic and went for a look. Nope, complete morons to a man.


19 posted on 12/10/2023 9:47:25 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: FarCenter

Schools teach kids to hate America.

Dog bites man. Not a shocker. Kids coming out of schools hate America.

What is a shocker is that there is such a infinitesimally small movement by parents against the schools to stop promoting hatred paid for by our tax dollars.

Far too many parents say “I have a job” - so they can’t get involved. Won’t get involved. Actively refuse to get involved - and they’re PROUD of their noninvolvement. They wear their noninvolvement as a badge of honor, pride, and great distinction. Where did that “Mama Grizzly” parental instinct go to protect one’s offspring?

This isn’t the 2010’s Tea Party movement, that’s for sure.

Everyone is dead asleep while the progressive steal our country in broad daylight.


20 posted on 12/10/2023 9:48:14 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (The historians must be stopped. They're destroying everything.)
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