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Two FISA reform bills up for House votes Tuesday, one will go to Senate (the old John Boehner gambit)
Just the News ^ | 12/11/23 | Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 12/11/2023 1:40:40 PM PST by cotton1706

Competing Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) bills are scheduled for House floor votes on Tuesday.

The Protect Liberty and End Warrantless Surveillance Act would end warrantless searches for Americans’ communications under section 702 of FISA.

The exemptions for the warrant requirement include an “imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm" or a “cybersecurity threat signature."

FISA Reform and Reauthorization Act of 2023 would allow warrantless searches under section 702 to continue.

Both pieces of legislation are being considered under "Queen of the Hill" rules, which will send to the Senate the bill that receives the most votes.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilrights; elections; fisa; house; privacy; spying; surveillance
Queen of the Hill is a seldom-used special rule issued by the House Rules Committee when considering legislation on the floor of the House. If the rule is adopted by the full House, it permits multiple votes on a series of competing amendments, and only the amendment that obtains the highest number of votes is incorporated into the legislation.

Queen of the Hill was formed out of the House's King of the Hill rule, itself originally created in 1971. King of the Hill, now out of common use, deemed that the last amendment in a series to secure a majority vote would be considered the prevailing amendment; even if another amendment received a higher vote tally, the last amendment to receive the majority vote would be the amendment considered adopted. This process fell into disuse because the order of the amendments came to matter more than the total vote tally.

We are the Champions Queen of the Hill, created as an alternative in 1995, instead means that the amendment receiving the most votes, regardless of order, is the amendment deemed adopted by the House. Even if other amendments could have been adopted, Queen of the Hill only permits the one with the highest number of votes to prevail. This newer rule was used nearly 40 times between 1995 and 2002, with it last being used to pass the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation.

Until Speaker Boehner used the rule to pass a House Budget Resolution two weeks ago, Queen of the Hill had not been used for 13 years. By using it for the Budget Resolution, Speaker Boehner was able to successfully bridge the divide between fiscal and defense hawks within the House Republican Caucus. Six different budget substitute amendments were considered in order, including the original budget proposed by the House Budget Committee and an alternative that increased defense spending, allowing the House to choose among the competing versions. Of these, the amendment that included increased defense spending was agreed to by the largest margin (a vote of 219-208); none of the other amendments received a majority vote. In the final vote to approve the Budget Resolution, Speaker Boehner was able to pass the measure with an even stronger GOP majority, having placated both sides of his party by giving the competing factions of the House Republican Caucus a voice on their preferred version of the budget.

1 posted on 12/11/2023 1:40:40 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

The leadership, with the help of the Democrats, will make sure that their preferred bill gets the most votes.

New boss, same as the old boss.

If the Congress did NOTHING, which they are usually VERY GOOD at, section 702 would expire on 12/31.

But they can’t just let that happen! They NEED that to spy on Americans. So all kinds of machinations are needed.


2 posted on 12/11/2023 1:43:19 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Boehner. Ryan. McCarthy. When do republicans get to pick a Republican speaker, anyway. The Democrats even have Ronna as their employee at RNC, just in case things fall thru the cracks in the house


3 posted on 12/11/2023 1:45:47 PM PST by Swanks
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To: cotton1706

I will be very surprised if most of the Republicans vote for the lesser intrusive bill. Most of them seem to be all too comfortable with the Deed State and spying on American citizens. I would expect the overwhelming number of Dims to vote for as much snooping as possible, since they are gung-ho for all the Big Brother legislation they can get.


4 posted on 12/11/2023 3:57:01 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: cotton1706

Sounds like this is what you are absolutely certain will happen. Think you’re wrong. We shall see.


5 posted on 12/11/2023 4:01:07 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: SharpRightTurn

Agree with you. Warrantless searches on Americans simply shouldn’t be....and I think that’s the majority view.


6 posted on 12/11/2023 4:03:23 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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