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Jury to decide how much Rudy Giuliani must pay election workers he defamed
nbcnews.com ^ | 12/11/2023 | ryan j. reilly

Posted on 12/11/2023 8:31:44 PM PST by bitt

WASHINGTON — Opening statements began Monday in a trial to determine how much Rudy Giuliani will have to pay two former Georgia election workers after he was found liable for defaming them with baseless claims that they committed fraud in the 2020 election.

Ruby Freeman and her daughter, Wandrea “Shaye” Moss, sued Giuliani over the bogus claims, which they say upended their lives. Giuliani, the former New York City mayor and former federal prosecutor, was found to have defamed the two women, including by falsely claiming they were handing around what he alleged were USB drives "like they were vials of heroin or cocaine,” when in reality they were exchanging a ginger mint.

Freeman and Moss received an “overwhelming” amount of “vile, racist, hateful comments” that were “fueled” by Giuliani and his co-conspirators, one of their attorneys, Michael Gottlieb, told jurors.

For a staggering number of Americans, their names have become synonymous with crime and fraud, Gottlieb said.

Giuliani attorney Joseph Sibley told jurors there's no question that Freeman and Moss were harmed and that they're "good people," but he added that the “punishment must match the crime.” He said Giuliani never promoted racism or violence and that the millions of dollars Freeman and Moss are seeking would be the “civil equivalent of the death penalty.”

“It would be the end of Mr. Giuliani,” Sibley added.

But in comments outside the courthouse Monday, Giuliani told reporters he did not regret his lies, and he claimed that he "told the truth" about Freeman and Moss.

“When I testify, you’ll get the whole story, and it will be definitively clear what I said was true,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 4a; 4thamendment; fourthamendment; rubyfreeman; rudygiuliani; unfairtrial; wandreashayemoss
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1 posted on 12/11/2023 8:31:44 PM PST by bitt
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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2 posted on 12/11/2023 8:31:57 PM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: bitt
We’ve definitely arrived.

Welcome to Bizarro World.

3 posted on 12/11/2023 8:33:49 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell>)
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To: bitt

How could he “defame” them when the azhos were never famed in the first place?


4 posted on 12/11/2023 8:34:11 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The damage Biden and his freak show is doing to America is not reversable.)
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To: bitt

Wandrea “Shaye” Moss...
Nuff said...


5 posted on 12/11/2023 8:36:06 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Those two where caught on camera stuffing the ballots in the machines over and over.


6 posted on 12/11/2023 8:39:28 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: bitt
But in comments outside the courthouse Monday, Giuliani told reporters he did not regret his lies, ...

No bias there from NBC Mockingbird Media. /s

7 posted on 12/11/2023 8:40:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: bitt

Stalin’s USSR: Dissenters are shot.
Brezhnev’s USSR: Dissenters are placed in insane asylums.
Biden’s America: Dissenters are hounded with lawsuits and bogus criminal charges.

When you think about it, there’s not a whole lot of difference there. In every case, step off the reservation and you’ll get slapped, hard.


8 posted on 12/11/2023 8:44:30 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: bitt

“Howell asked Sibley where his client was. Sibley replied that Giuliani was in New York, prompting the judge to remind him that her standing order instructed all counsel and parties to be present for the hearing.”

Nothing but a judicial dictator ordering Rudy to be in court at an arbitrary date and time, all while knowing Rudy would be in New York.


9 posted on 12/11/2023 8:48:22 PM PST by Round Earther
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To: bitt

“But in comments outside the courthouse Monday, Giuliani told reporters he did not regret his lies”

So this author states that Giuliani said he did not regret “his lies”? LOL


10 posted on 12/11/2023 8:54:14 PM PST by plain talk
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Has Rudy been found guilty? If so, why is he talking about taking the stand? And why are his attorneys saying “there’s no question that Freeman and Moss were harmed and that they’re “good people,” “?


11 posted on 12/11/2023 8:57:25 PM PST by moonhawk (Unleash the MAGAhideen!)
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To: bitt

From what I understand, Rudy never mentioned her name.


12 posted on 12/11/2023 9:43:43 PM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Rudy admitted the claim was fake.


13 posted on 12/11/2023 9:51:03 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: bitt

Talk about propaganda. As far I know he has not even been found guilty yet by a political jury.

The videos did not lie. Besides the arena video I remember the mother put out videos showing unsecured ballots she was working with in a back room before the election.


14 posted on 12/11/2023 10:02:22 PM PST by Revel
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To: bitt

Giuliani is the idiot who told Trump not to get Syndey Powell her papers as special prosecutor for the election crimes that occurred for the 2020 Big Steal. Rudi effed up.


15 posted on 12/11/2023 10:06:04 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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(Giuliani is the idiot who told Trump not to get Syndey Powell her papers as special prosecutor for the election crimes that occurred for the 2020 Big Steal)

What paperwork did she have and why would he do that?


16 posted on 12/11/2023 10:34:41 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: bitt
If you Google this the BS is strong. Did this jury find Rudy guilty of libel? If that is the case why did Rudy say ‘When I testify, you'll get the whole story, and it will be definitively clear what I said was true’ ?
17 posted on 12/11/2023 10:35:00 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man
What paperwork did she have and why would he do that?

Trump orally appointed Powell as special prosecutor. Giuliani then privately told Trump not to do that, and if he did, they would all go to jail. Meanwhile, Giuliani convinced Trump to litigate in the courts, from which Giuliani profited. How smart was that?
18 posted on 12/11/2023 10:41:38 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

Ok, hang on! Why did Trump want to name Powell Special Prosecutor? Who was she supposed to be going after?


19 posted on 12/11/2023 10:49:56 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: bitt

Rudy should move ALL assets into an LLC and then file personal bankruptcy!! They can’t sue an LLC!!


20 posted on 12/11/2023 10:50:12 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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