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To: algore

I would almost think the legislation was not needed, as being part of NATO is a treaty arrangement the U.S. signed, and the Senate approved, and I did not think that Presidents can unilaterly defy a treaty arrangement the U.S. is part of.

It seems to me the legislation was stating what was already legally obvious.


10 posted on 12/14/2023 2:43:36 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

It’s about clawing authority they don’t have, not in the subject itself.
They forget coequal branches of government and that none have authority over the rest.


13 posted on 12/14/2023 2:47:50 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Wuli

Hard to say what’s needed anymore. Obama signed on (illegally w/o Senate Approval) to the Paris Climate Accords, IIRC.

Regardless, I’d say the way to diminish NATO is to just not include any funding or operational orders supporting it. NATO has become a lumbering behemoth going far beyond its original charter. If Europe and some here in the US want NATO-like involvement in the mideast, then create a new treaty and get it passed through the Senate and stop piggy-backing off cold war NATO.


14 posted on 12/14/2023 2:49:15 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Wuli

Dem Presidents have ignored treaties. Clinton for one when it came to Taiwan.


16 posted on 12/14/2023 2:51:51 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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To: Wuli
I would almost think the legislation was not needed, as being part of NATO is a treaty arrangement the U.S. signed, and the Senate approved, and I did not think that Presidents can unilaterly defy a treaty arrangement the U.S. is part of.

It's been over twenty years since the treaty was signed and as stipulated in the treaty, "...any party may cease to be a party one year after its notice of denunciation..."

Add to that Article II of our Constitution which grants power of foreign policy to the president.

I believe Trump would have the power to drop the treaty.

30 posted on 12/14/2023 3:17:06 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Wuli
It seems to me the legislation was stating what was already legally obvious.

Yup.

34 posted on 12/14/2023 3:26:52 PM PST by pfflier
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