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There Is No Precedent for How Bad Biden’s Polls Are Right Now
Slate ^ | December 20, 2023 | David Faris

Posted on 12/20/2023 6:42:30 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

As President Joe Biden grows increasingly mystified by his unpopularity, he is also experiencing the worst polling of his presidency. This plummet was punctuated by last Thursday’s release of several Bloomberg/Morning Consult surveys showing him getting swept in a series of battleground states. Then, on Tuesday, yet another New York Times/Siena College survey showed former President Donald Trump beating Biden nationally and, perhaps most shockingly, with young voters. Now that the contact high of the most recent Democratic election overperformance in November’s off-year contests has worn off, genuine fear has set in among both Democratic insiders and the rank and file as the president trails Trump by 3 points in the RealClearPolitics average.

Precisely how scared Democrats should be about Biden’s standing depends on how his plight compares with those of presidents past. And there’s no sugarcoating it: This might be the worst polling environment for an incumbent president one year out from an election since the advent of the polling era in the 1930s and also the most dire situation facing any Democratic presidential candidate in decades. Panic is entirely warranted.

It’s worth noting that the universe of polling around an incumbent president’s reelection chances is an extremely small sample size. When people make confident claims about the relationship between polling data and outcomes with incumbent presidents, they are largely talking about a whopping 12 post-WWII cases. To make it even harder to draw firm conclusions, as recently as the 1990s (what my students adorably refer to as “the late 1900s”), there were no polling aggregators like RealClearPolitics or FiveThirtyEight because there were not that many surveys, especially this far out from an election.

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In other words, this century’s incumbent presidents really haven’t had any dramatic shifts of the magnitude that Biden needs to win next November’s election, especially keeping in mind that most analysts believe a small popular vote victory for the president will result in an Electoral College defeat, like Hillary Clinton’s in 2016.

It gets worse...

1 posted on 12/20/2023 6:42:30 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The beating of the American public will continue until the poll numbers improve for Brandon.


2 posted on 12/20/2023 6:44:21 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

See Carter, Jimmy for further clarification


3 posted on 12/20/2023 6:44:36 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

pretty soon the dems are gonna need to decide whether to focus on keeping Trump off ballots, or just start impeaching him again....oh, wait, there’s still the criminal trials so that could be their saving grace....

oh, wait, there’s also “mail in” ballots....


4 posted on 12/20/2023 6:46:03 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yeah, so much for the “adults are now in charge,” right?

You Biden voters happy now?

Biden’s got nothing going for his lousy record - so he’s using lawfare to go after Trump.


5 posted on 12/20/2023 6:46:17 AM PST by Bon of Babble (You Say You Want a Revolution?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Other than Christie’s approval rating in New Jersey when he left office.

Bush/Cheney’s approval rating was around 30% when they left.


6 posted on 12/20/2023 6:46:32 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

At one point approaching 2008 election Dubya was in the high twenties. Of course he was not running again so it didn’t matter too much, but…Biden hasn’t reached that level…yet.


7 posted on 12/20/2023 6:48:20 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Look, Biden ran for president two previous times and never got past single digits. The guy just was never popular. People knew he was a lying, cheating political hack with no real accomplishments. The only thing that’s changed is that he’s become an angry old fool. He was all Democrats had in 2020 and it sorta proves the whole manufactured 81 million votes.


8 posted on 12/20/2023 6:48:40 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Just advance warning to ‘Rats to rev up the ballot presses earlier to hit the new targets in time.


9 posted on 12/20/2023 6:49:50 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Don’t panic, Mr. Biden. You still have the full support of Dominion and their magical voting machines.


10 posted on 12/20/2023 6:50:48 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Polls mean nothing, because Election Day balloting is no longer enough. Show me that Trump (or whoever) is going to get at least 20% of the harvested ballot count in each state whre it’s legal - the GOP nominee must at least compete in the ballot harvesting arena.


11 posted on 12/20/2023 6:51:02 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’m afraid this may indicate the uniparty doesn’t have to worry about “ballots” any more. They can always find just enough in a few strategic precincts to drag their candidate into the win column.


12 posted on 12/20/2023 6:51:22 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: joe fonebone

See Carter, Jimmy for further clarification

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Were they bussing thousands and thousands of illegals to battleground states in 1979?


13 posted on 12/20/2023 6:52:01 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It doesn’t matter how bad or how low the polls get for Biden.

He will win in landslide at 3 AM Central time on Election night.

Everybody will go to bed at 10-11 pm thinking Trump has it in the bag and then they wake up next morning and find it all mysteriously evaporated during the night.............


14 posted on 12/20/2023 6:53:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: CatOwner

Exactly. :)


15 posted on 12/20/2023 6:56:11 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I thought Slate had become a Special Education journal


16 posted on 12/20/2023 6:57:07 AM PST by struggle
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I worry that Brandon is bottoming out too soon.

After the 1994 Republican nationwide tidal wave election, the general consensus was that Clinton could not get re-elected dog catcher in 1996. But thanks to the tireless efforts of a devoted national media, Clinton’s popularity began to rise and continued to rise through the 1996 election and throughout his second term, even after it was disclosed that he had been using a 22 year old intern as a sex doll and lying about it under oath.

There is absolutely nothing that the democrats and their media lackeys will not do next year to stop Trump from winning re-election.


17 posted on 12/20/2023 6:57:20 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy ( Dementia Joe is Not My President)
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To: joe fonebone

18 posted on 12/20/2023 6:57:45 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

See how long the media has been meddling with politics using polls?

If you were a fly on the wall in the AP news room, you can almost hear his voice to this to this very day. “We can’t publish that Reagan is projected in a landslide. That will demoralize democrat voters and make it come true”


19 posted on 12/20/2023 7:01:38 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Followed by 1984, when they admitted the electoral map looked like “Lake Reagan”.


20 posted on 12/20/2023 7:06:53 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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