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Feared Russian hypersonic missile shot down over Kyiv
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | January 2nd, 2024 | Timothy Sigsworth

Posted on 01/02/2024 7:34:03 PM PST by Mariner

The US-supplied Patriot air defence system shot down a ‘record’ ten hypersonic missiles fired at Ukraine from Russia on Tuesday morning.

Kinzhal hypersonic missiles are part of an arsenal of weapons Vladimir Putin claimed were indestructible because of the speed at which they travel.

Kyiv earlier said that Russia fired 99 missiles of different types at Ukraine in its large-scale attack on Tuesday morning, and that its air force shot down 72 of them.

“Today, the Ukrainian air force downed 10 out of 10 Russian ‘Kinzhal’... aeroballistic missiles with the help of the Patriot AD system,” the Ukrainian army’s commander-in-chief Valery Zaluzhny said on social media.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: missile; russia
Absent evidence to the contrary I'll believe they got all 10 with the upgraded Patriot batteries.

They appear to be the best anti-missile systems out there.

But it begs the question: Who will run out of missiles first?

Russia is producing 10 Kinzhals per month, minimum. Another dozen + of the Iskander. And those are just the Patriot targets.

Each Patriot system costs $2.5-3.0 Billion. Each missile costs $6 - $13 million, depending on model.

1 posted on 01/02/2024 7:34:03 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

Quick, someone tell Congress that their concerns about hypersonic missile defence are unfounded.

https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2023/12/18/congress-demands-quicker-fielding-of-hypersonic-weapons-interceptor/


2 posted on 01/02/2024 7:38:14 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Mariner

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3 posted on 01/02/2024 7:40:23 PM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: Mariner

Can’t be true

John Conyers told us back in the ‘80s that you can’t hit a bullet with a bullet


4 posted on 01/02/2024 7:47:39 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Mariner

At hypersonic speeds you can’t maneuver, so your trajectory is easy to predict. Who’da thunk it?


5 posted on 01/02/2024 7:50:40 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (thank you )
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To: Mariner
"hypersonic" ?

Vlad, you keep using that word.

I don't think it means what you think it means.

(cuz otherwise they wouldn't getting whacked)

6 posted on 01/02/2024 7:52:35 PM PST by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: Mariner

I enjoy watching Israel’s Iron Dome in action. When a rocket’s trajectory will take it into the desert, with no people around, Iron Dome does not fire and waste a rocket.

Iron Beam - there are stories that Israel is deploying their Iron Beam technology. Directed energy lasers to defeat incoming rockets. Whether or not Iron Beam is functioning today, it will be eventually.

They said that missile defense would never be possible. Ronaldus Magnus knew that eventually we could “hit a bullet with a bullet.” They said that laser weapons were also science fiction.


7 posted on 01/02/2024 8:26:02 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
"At hypersonic speeds you can’t maneuver, so your trajectory is easy to predict."

If anything happens to get in its way, like a piece of metal, as it's moving at hypersonic speeds, I'd expect it would be bad for its health and possibly reduce its chance of finding its target.
8 posted on 01/02/2024 9:00:29 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
At hypersonic speeds you can't maneuver, so your trajectory is easy to predict.

Like a plane with single prop vs a plane with dual props: Terminal loss of speed or lift means dual props get you to the crash site faster.

9 posted on 01/02/2024 9:38:26 PM PST by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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To: clearcarbon
If anything happens to get in its way, like a piece of metal, as it's moving at hypersonic speeds, I'd expect it would be bad for its health and possibly reduce its chance of finding its target.

Yup. Just strew a cloud of half-inch tungsten balls in its' way. Kinetic kill.

10 posted on 01/02/2024 9:47:58 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (thank you )
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To: Mariner

Actually they can be very hard to kill. But Russia has crappy ones.


11 posted on 01/02/2024 10:49:21 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: Revolutionary

“Actually they can be very hard to kill. But Russia has crappy ones.”
So far. But this gives them (and probably the Chinese) a chance to test up grades and counter measures.


12 posted on 01/03/2024 12:03:41 AM PST by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo)
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To: Mariner

Actually, the patriot missile interceptor costs more like 4-5 million bucks but 72 missiles was a very expensive day - over 300 million dollars of very difficult to replace Patriots that should be used for the defense of America were just squandered by Ukraine for no good reason and no gain what so ever.

We are depleting our armories in this shit hole and the Chinese are laughing their asses off.


13 posted on 01/03/2024 3:10:41 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: Chad C. Mulligan
Hypersonic flight vehicles certainly can maneuver to a certain degree and at the speeds they fly, you don't need much.

It's really more about sensor suites and guidance systems.

If I were the Russians I would be sending the cheapest, most stripped down and easy to shoot down version of the missiles I could make to deplete the Patriot batteries and then come back with the real deal for the win.

14 posted on 01/03/2024 3:19:00 AM PST by rdcbn1
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To: rdcbn1
If I were the Russians I would be sending the cheapest, most stripped down and easy to shoot down version of the missiles I could make to deplete the Patriot batteries and then come back with the real deal for the win.

Maybe they are getting us to deplete our Patriots for when they launch nukes.

15 posted on 01/03/2024 3:23:36 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Next week on The Bickersons...)
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To: clearcarbon

“If anything happens to get in its way, like a piece of metal, as it’s moving at hypersonic speeds, I’d expect it would be bad for its health and possibly reduce its chance of finding its target.”

Chinese anti-satellite systems put a cloud of ball bearings in front of a satellite, I wonder if the same technology could be deployed for incoming hypersonics?


16 posted on 01/03/2024 4:41:39 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: rdcbn1; Nervous Tick
[We are depleting our armories]

Not to worry. Our growing reserves of transgenders will strike abject fear into the heart of any enemy.

Just wait until this one hops on the broom and flies Kamikaze into an Iranian warship. That'll teach 'em!


17 posted on 01/03/2024 4:59:14 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Mariner

Feared by whom?


18 posted on 01/03/2024 5:12:28 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Mariner

It’s a telegraph article and Ukraine has to show success for its quarterly fundraiser….

So I’ll wait for confirmation.


19 posted on 01/03/2024 5:53:42 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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To: Revolutionary

Everything the Russians produce is crap. That’s what happens when alcoholism is rampant in your society and your military. Add in corruption at every level and you end up with garbage equipment.


20 posted on 01/03/2024 11:06:51 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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