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To: Macho MAGA Man

More birther nonsense. She was born in the USA under the authority of the US government, which is all that is required for being a Natural Born Citizen. See the lengthy analysis in Wong Kim Ark:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/169/649

Vattel didn’t discuss NBC so he wasn’t the source of the Founders’ ideas on the subject.


17 posted on 01/06/2024 5:34:22 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Exactly right. The Constitution only mentions Aliens, Naturalized Citizens and Natural Born Citizens. There is no half-caste of Citizenship where you aren’t Naturalized, but you aren’t Natural Born.

I think the correct interpretation of Aliens is people subject to another government. And the idea that children of aliens become citizens by birth location is a fairly new idea here in America.

But NBC merely means you didn’t gain citizenship by getting naturalized. Everything else is made up and British 1600s crap.


24 posted on 01/06/2024 5:45:23 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up. And at the very moment young women )
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To: Mr Rogers

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31 posted on 01/06/2024 6:05:19 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Mr Rogers

Don’t waste your time with these clowns.


45 posted on 01/06/2024 7:01:08 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Mr Rogers

Which is completely at odds with the 1866 Civil Rights Act from which the amendment was derived.

“All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”

The first two subsequent cases, the Supreme Court addressed the issue, first in dicta in The Slaughter-House Cases, and then as a holding in Elk v. Wilkins.

But it’s an open and shut case.


46 posted on 01/06/2024 7:09:49 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Mr Rogers

Totally false.


51 posted on 01/06/2024 8:01:11 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: Mr Rogers

nonsense


56 posted on 01/06/2024 8:33:09 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Mr Rogers
Vattel didn’t discuss NBC so he wasn’t the source of the Founders’ ideas on the subject.

Vattel died in 1767. Never in his lifetime did a nation exist with the sovereignty vested in the citizens.

Black's Law Dictionary, 11th Ed.

law of nations. See INTERNATIONAL LAW.

Vattel wrote a book about International Law, then called the Law of Nations. Domestic citizenship decisions are not subject to International Law. The USA alone determines who are its citizens. It is the same for every other nation on earth as well.

63 posted on 01/06/2024 9:38:32 PM PST by woodpusher
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