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'It's high time': Nunavut officially takes over land, resource responsibilities from feds (772,204+ square miles)
CBC news ^ | Jan 18, 2024 | Emma Tranter

Posted on 01/18/2024 8:14:20 PM PST by jerod

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To: BobL

The Canadian government has done such a great job of showing everybody that indigenous people can ‘do no wrong’, that even if they do do something wrong... Like sell all their newly gotten land to an oil company or some foreign government, it will be difficult for the government to say that they’re doing anything wrong.

After all... They are the stewards of this land. They know best and if the best they can do is make all of their people filthy wealthy rich... Well... Then that ‘is’ the best.


21 posted on 01/18/2024 10:16:48 PM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: BobL

BTW - There are about 27,000 Inuit people in Nunavut... So... If you pay each one a million... That’s 27 billion dollars...

So... How much is a piece of land the size of California and Alaska worth? 27 billion?... $135 billion offers each person a tidy sum of $5 million each.

Bill Gates has 120 billion... He could own the whole thing if they give him discount.


22 posted on 01/18/2024 10:27:02 PM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: P.O.E.

That’s precisely it.
White man gets nun of it.


23 posted on 01/18/2024 10:55:47 PM PST by himno hero (had'nff 8)
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To: jerod

The joke is on diefenbaker. The lands were in occupied until he pulled people from port burwell in northern Quebec and sprinkled them along Canada’s coastline in about 1950.

He did that so the world would recognize Canada’s borders.


24 posted on 01/18/2024 11:04:36 PM PST by himno hero (had'nff 8)
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To: PGR88
They should immediately sign a military treaty with Putin

"A lot of work has gone into making today possible," he said. "Leaders, negotiators, officials of many stripes have all worked hard for many years for the same goal: for Nunavummiut to have increased control for decisions on their land, waters and resources."

NOTE: Not foreign relations (incl. treaties with foreign powers) and/or military matters.

Regards,

25 posted on 01/19/2024 1:19:28 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: All

To answer several questions, Nunavut is now at equal status to Yukon and Northwest Territories in having more control over its territorial government. These three territories are not quite at the constitutional equivalency of the ten provinces which have even more defined powers in our federal system than the territories. The three territories are sparsely populated and do not seek provincial status which would further reduce the amount of federal funding available to them and force them to tax their citizens at an unsustainable rate.

Nunavut and the current NWT used to be one territory (with the name NWT) until partition about 30 years ago. Yukon has always been a territory since late in the 19th century when a larger territorial area including some western provinces was redefined. Yukon and NWT were granted the powers just handed to Nunavut decades ago.

Nunavut is basically most but not all of the arctic islands (western Victoria Island and Banks Island are in the NWT), and also includes mainland areas nort of Saskatchewan and manitoba. It includes some islands in hudson Bay and even James Bay although the large island it controls in James Bay (Akimiski Island) is a wildlife preserve and not currently inhabited.

All three territories have one elected member of parliament, even though their populations are only 20 to 40 per cent of the population of an average riding. The only other province with any special dispensation on parliamentary representation is Prince Edward Island which is guaranteed four seats in parliament; its current population would only give it one or possibly two. Otherwise, the Canadian parliament is defined to be 75 seats in Quebec and whatever numbers equal representation would then give other provinces. As Quebec’s percentage of the population has gradually diminished, this means a larger number of elected members each year that redistribution occurs, currently there are 338 members of parliament. Population of ridings also tends to vary within provinces, so that larger but sparsely populated northern ridings often have about half the population of urban ridings in the south.

Our Senate has much less power in our constitution than does your Senate, but it is an appointed body, efforts to find a formula for an elected Senate broke down in the failure of the meech lake accord in the 1990s. As the Senate does little more than review and ratify federal legislation passed by parliament, it is not an issue with voters, but there are some established guidelines on regional representation in the Senate, and Alberta has from time to time advised the federal government on which of its citizens it would like to see appointed to the Senate.

The federal government will still have a significant role in life in Nunavut, a lot of employers are federal agencies such as the military, weather stations, national parks, and airports. There are large national parks that get very few visitors, and act as wildlife preserves. The biggest obstacle to developing mines in Nunavut is not political opposition but remoteness and a nearly total absence of road infrastructure. Everything that moves around up there goes by air or by sea, except for a few small networks of roads near towns wit airports. I could not today reach any part of Nunavut by driving there, but I could reach al ost any inhabited place in Yukon or NWT by road, if I were crazy enough to do so, flying is still a much simpler way to get to most places in the far north.

Nunavut has about a dozen towns of any size, several on Baffin Island, a few on the mainland portion, and one on eastern Victoria Island (Cambridge Bay); these towns are mostly in the range of 1,000 to 2,000 people but the capital Iqualuit on Baffin Island (its name was formerly Frobisher Bay) is larger (about 8,000). Several fairly large islands are entirely uninhabited, and on Ellesmere Island there are just two very small places centered around weather stations and military bases, Alert and Eureka.

Ellesmere Island is about the same size as Great Britain and is about 40 per cent glaciated, not quite like Greenland, but similar. Its total population is under 500. Baffin Island is three times larger and 90% of it is never or seldom visited by human beings but often overflown, if you’ve been to Europe by plane, and you live west of Ohio, you could have flown over Baffin Island. It is only 10 per cent glaciated now but at the end of the last full glacial period (ice age) it was covered in ice almost like Greenland is today. Devon Island between Baffin and Ellesmere is about the size of a large U.S. state, 90% covered in ice and uninhabited also.


26 posted on 01/19/2024 1:47:22 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: jerod
Akeeagok and Nunavut Tunngavik Inc. president Aluki Kotierk

That's a mouthful

27 posted on 01/19/2024 2:02:26 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (This Is The Way)
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To: jerod

bkmk


28 posted on 01/19/2024 5:12:19 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

P.E.I.?


29 posted on 01/19/2024 5:56:22 AM PST by jimjohn (We're at war, people. Start acting like it.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Does a territory have more rights than a province?


30 posted on 01/19/2024 8:39:57 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: jerod
Do you really want to live in Nunavut?

It's not for you. Not unless you are a "First Canadian"

Nunavut was split off from the rest of the NWT because nobody else would ever want to live there.

Whatever you think of Jim Gaffigan's politics, his rant on Canadian geography is very funny.

31 posted on 01/19/2024 8:52:12 AM PST by x
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32 posted on 01/19/2024 2:54:08 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Robert DeLong
the corporate world of billionaires are incorporating the world....no constitutional rights, no pesky laws....

allowing indians to create "sovereign" nations is the biggest loophole for drugs, prostitution and gambling and they pay no taxes...

a true mafia dream...

33 posted on 01/19/2024 3:01:36 PM PST by cherry
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To: Albion Wilde

Looking at that map, I’m thinking... It wouldn’t be that hard to invade Greenland.


34 posted on 01/19/2024 6:23:15 PM PST by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: jerod

Or the reverse. Maybe Trump can acquire Greenland in his second term. Then we’d have Canada 3/4 surrounded.


35 posted on 01/19/2024 6:25:20 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: jerod

forgot the /sarcasm tag


36 posted on 01/19/2024 6:25:57 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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The map contains an error, eastern two-thirds of Victoria Island and all of melville Island above it are in Nunavut, not in the NWT. Victoria Island is the second last big one towards Alaska. Banks Island to its west is in the NWT as shown. Prince Patrick Island, a smaller one to its north, has the boundary running through it (I believe it is the 110 W longitude meridian).


37 posted on 01/19/2024 6:46:54 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: x
"Do you really want to live in Nunavut?"

Nunavut has only one city; "Iqaluit (/iˈkæluɪt/ ee-KAL-oo-it;population 7,429." The capital.

Nunavut is the least populous of Canada's three territories with 36,858 residents as of 2021 Canadian census, but the largest territory in land area, at 1,836,993.78 km (709,267.26 sq mi).

Nunavut has 25 municipalities, including 24 hamlets and 1 city1. Nunavut's 25 municipalities cover only 0.2% of the territory's land mass but are home to 99.83% of its population

Hopefully now someone will fix the "potholes" before "Tourist Season".

38 posted on 01/19/2024 7:23:44 PM PST by guest7
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To: cherry
NACs actually has nothing to do with Indian lands. Federal & even private lands, though I suppose Indians lands could be open for harvesting the assets acquisitions. My knowledge about how this all works is still being acquired, as this is something brand new.

But Indian lands were actually meant to be lands that were separate from the U.S.

39 posted on 01/19/2024 7:54:25 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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Another factor that could discourage anyone from moving to Nunavut is, darned cold up there. At Cambridge Bay on Victoria Island, January mean temperature is -33 C (-27 F), and they regularly get week to two week spells below -40 C,F. July mean is 10 C (50 F). A warm day is anything over 20 C (68 F) and the warmest ever recorded is 28 C (82 F). When it gets that warm, mosquitoes are everywhere. Polar bears are fairly common even on land.

At Resolute in the central arctic islands, it is about the same in winter but “summers” are even colder, the July average is about 6 C (43 F) and it rarely gets as warm as 20 C (68F).

There have been “summer months” as cold as 3 C (37 F) at Resolute in recent years. Snow can fall even in July and August although the ground does become snow free for about six to eight weeks in most years.

Snow covers the ground from late August or early September to early to late June at those locations. Ice stays in t e inland lakes even on the mainland into early July and re-forms in October or early November.

Iqaluit is a bit milder in winter but gets heavier snow and even rain storms. The suicide rate is high in the north due mainly to the lack of sunlight. Also it is dark 24 hours a day in some places from mid-November into late January.


40 posted on 01/20/2024 2:32:05 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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