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US special operations forces are searching for a new extreme long-range rifle for their next big fight as Ukraine shows the damage that snipers can do
Business Insider ^ | 1/28/2024 | Stavros Atlamazoglou

Posted on 01/28/2024 6:23:20 PM PST by logi_cal869

Ask any soldier, and they'll tell you that there are fewer scarier things on a battlefield than an enemy sniper. The combination of the unknown with the actual danger elevates snipers to some of the most hated figures in warfare.

But snipers are force multipliers, more so when it comes to special operations. Army Rangers, Navy SEALs, Marine Raiders, and Green Berets fight in small numbers, and the snipers within their ranks play a key role. In a team of 12-16 commandos, many will be sniper-qualified, thus maximizing the firepower of the group.

US special operations forces are now looking for a new, extreme long-range rifle for their next big fight, a possible high-intensity conflict, as the war in Ukraine has shown the damage that snipers can do, the impact they can have on the battlefield.

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It's a shame they won't get any assist from Marine Scout Sniper teams...

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1 posted on 01/28/2024 6:23:20 PM PST by logi_cal869
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I would have thought drones would have had a major impact on sniper effectiveness.


2 posted on 01/28/2024 6:28:18 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: logi_cal869

Ukraine shows?

We’ve known that snipers were a force multiplier since at least the civil war. In GWOT oursnipers racked up crazy numbers. Russians on the Eastern Front did too.

Hathcock still the GOAT!


3 posted on 01/28/2024 6:28:56 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: hardspunned

It’s involved, but if you’re stationary, you can cloak yourself to drone tech. Moving is another story.


4 posted on 01/28/2024 6:29:53 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: hardspunned
I would have thought drones would have had a major impact on sniper effectiveness.

Our ships are having a hard time defending against them. We have anti-missile systems but it's too expensive to defend against cheap drones.

5 posted on 01/28/2024 6:30:26 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: logi_cal869

Why would they need a longer range rifle when they can just use a low tech longer range drone.

The skill level of a master sniper is way higher than the skill level of a drone operator.

The drone not only does its job but also takes pictures of it while its doing its job.

A sniper can shoot for up to a mile. But the cheap drones can go several miles.

they can be pretty cheap to make.

The drone war in ukraine is shifting the way people think about everything in battle.

Both the Ukes and the Rus are using them effectively.


6 posted on 01/28/2024 6:31:09 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: logi_cal869

News Story #1) The Secret Service can no longer wear red ties, because Trump wears red ties.

News Story #2) Snipers are extremely effective at very long-range.


7 posted on 01/28/2024 6:31:35 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: logi_cal869

I understand that 16 inch guns have a pretty long range.


8 posted on 01/28/2024 6:35:02 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: logi_cal869

They could pick off cartel runners and coyotes on the US border.


9 posted on 01/28/2024 6:35:54 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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nope so they can shoot preppers and rural folks that wont get with the program


10 posted on 01/28/2024 6:36:10 PM PST by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: Levy78

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä


11 posted on 01/28/2024 6:37:49 PM PST by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: hardspunned

Sniper could easily shoot down a drone.


12 posted on 01/28/2024 6:38:08 PM PST by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: SharpenedEdge

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä


13 posted on 01/28/2024 6:38:56 PM PST by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: Levy78
a force multiplier since at least the civil war.

Saratoga, Revolutionary War.

14 posted on 01/28/2024 6:39:08 PM PST by Mogger (Are)
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To: SharpenedEdge

Yep. Know his story well. An absolute beast.


15 posted on 01/28/2024 6:39:33 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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...as the war in Ukraine has shown the damage that snipers can do, the impact they can have on the battlefield.

What the..? I think this has been known long before this Ukrainian cluster f***. Certainly the Russians learned it at Stalingrad and afterwards.

16 posted on 01/28/2024 6:40:05 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

(Our ships are having a hard time defending against them)

Reminds me of the Nazis Battleship Bismarck trying to defend itself against the much slower British Swordfish torpedo bi-planes attacking it. Her new automatic anti-aircraft guns couldn’t zero in on them. Eventually one lucky Swordfish got off a torpedo that struck her rudder and the rest is history.


17 posted on 01/28/2024 6:42:39 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: logi_cal869

18 posted on 01/28/2024 6:42:44 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Rummyfan

All true!


19 posted on 01/28/2024 6:43:58 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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Yeah. So we need to build motherships with drones on them. New age of Naval warfare.


20 posted on 01/28/2024 6:44:29 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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