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New York expands the legal definition of rape to include many forms of nonconsensual sexual contact
AP ^ | 01 31 2024 | MAYSOON KHA

Posted on 01/31/2024 4:08:14 PM PST by yesthatjallen

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To: ClearCase_guy

Maybe something happened 20 years ago.

I am not a lawyer but it is my understanding that a new law can not be used to charge someone for what may have been legal in the past.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S9-C3-3-3/ALDE_00013193/


21 posted on 01/31/2024 4:39:26 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

“ Trump was found guilty. ”

Nope. Not of rape. Nope


22 posted on 01/31/2024 4:39:35 PM PST by stanne
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To: MinorityRepublican

He was found guilty of sexual abuse (with ZERO physical evidence and flimsy half-baked testimony), NOT rape


23 posted on 01/31/2024 4:47:46 PM PST by jpp113
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To: yesthatjallen

I think we all agree NY couldn’t charge someone for an act that was not a crime when it was committed, but now might be considered a crime by the letter of this new law.

The mechanism I’m less sure about is whether NY thinks the new meaning they (these communists) have generated promulgates for all future instances of interpretations of those older laws that mention the word rape.

That clearly would misconstrue the intents of the legislatures that passed such laws with the earlier definition.

Surely not... but you never know with communists.


24 posted on 01/31/2024 4:49:19 PM PST by rx
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To: yesthatjallen

Such attitudes and stances that we see from New York targeting President Trump, and reflected here in this sadistic redefining of rape, typically were described as seeds of rebellion/revolution as I was taught.

I’m very happy I have no reason to ever step foot in that state for the rest of my life.


25 posted on 01/31/2024 4:56:50 PM PST by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Almost like the South Park episode where every person, verb, noun, etc…. Is called “Marklar”
So a conversation would be :
Rape raped Rape over in Rape Town. So now rape rape rape and rape.


26 posted on 01/31/2024 4:59:07 PM PST by midwest_hiker
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To: yesthatjallen
Whoopi said it along time ago: I know it wasn’t rape-rape. It was something else but I don’t believe it was rape-rape.
27 posted on 01/31/2024 4:59:50 PM PST by stylin19a (Artillery Brings Dignity to What Would Otherwise Be Just A Vulgar Brawl)
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To: yesthatjallen

When you turned away digging in the cushions for the remote, he raped me, in 2003.


28 posted on 01/31/2024 5:02:32 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: jpp113

Trump wasn’t found GUILTY of anything. Guilty is a criminal term. He was found LIABLE.


29 posted on 01/31/2024 5:03:06 PM PST by CraigEsq (,)
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To: yesthatjallen

So actually I think this is completely appropriate. New York has had a meaningless duplicitous definition of “rape” for vaginal penetration vs. “sexual assault” for other penetration. They were the exact same class of crime with the exact same punishment, but oddly only one was called “rape.” I guess now they’re all called rape. But as far as I’m aware nothing actually changes but the title.


30 posted on 01/31/2024 5:05:39 PM PST by CraigEsq (,)
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To: Brian Griffin

Traditional rape is consider a serious crime because it is a serious violation of the woman. It is not “She might catch a disease” but a violation of who she is with the possibility of then becoming pregnant with the attacker’s baby.

It has been a very serious crime for at least 3,000 years. Old Testament Law:


“23 “Suppose a man is caught in a town having intercourse with a young woman who is engaged to someone else. 24 You are to take them outside the town and stone them to death. She is to die because she did not cry out for help, although she was in a town, where she could have been heard. And the man is to die because he had intercourse with someone who was engaged. In this way you will get rid of this evil.

25 “Suppose a man out in the countryside rapes a young woman who is engaged to someone else. Then only the man is to be put to death; 26 nothing is to be done to the woman, because she has not committed a sin worthy of death. This case is the same as when one man attacks another man and murders him. 27 The man raped the engaged woman in the countryside, and although she cried for help, there was no one to help her.

28 “Suppose a man is caught raping a young woman who is not engaged. 29 He is to pay her father the bride price of fifty pieces of silver, and she is to become his wife, because he forced her to have intercourse with him. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.” - Dt 22


Notice a woman in a crowded area, where she could get help, if she does not ask for help, is to be put to death along with the man. And 3,000 years ago, when women were treated more like property, a woman not engaged to be married andwho is rape then became the rapist’s wife, to be cared for, for life, by the rapist - along with a large fine.

I’m not suggesting we go back to laws from 3,000 years ago, but we shouldn’t have much tolerance for someone crying “Rape” if the supposed rape happened in a crowded store with people just a few feet away...

If it happened the way she said, both she and Donald should be punished. But I don’t believe a syllable, let alone a word, of that vile woman’s testimony!

Which is why it has no effect. No one outside of NYC or DC believes ANYTHING a jury in those banana republics says.


31 posted on 01/31/2024 5:16:38 PM PST by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: yesthatjallen

New York’s only male population will be homeless illegal aliens.


32 posted on 01/31/2024 5:19:08 PM PST by DaxtonBrown (away.)
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To: yesthatjallen

This will be overturned. Don’t do those things, period.


33 posted on 01/31/2024 5:21:34 PM PST by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: yesthatjallen

Those things have been sexual assault of ages in other states. Rape remains rape.


34 posted on 01/31/2024 5:22:43 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Someone needs to stop Princess Kathy. She is enjoying her despotism too much.


35 posted on 01/31/2024 5:23:35 PM PST by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: yesthatjallen

Good. The current definition of “rape” pushed for in laws was purposely done so by feminist groups in order to define it only as sexual misconduct by men towards women, and to exempt lesbians and women in general from being able to be charged with rape (which they do to both men and women).


36 posted on 01/31/2024 5:36:20 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Now even if a husband kisses his wife and she is in a bad mood then look out!


37 posted on 01/31/2024 6:16:02 PM PST by Revel
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To: yesthatjallen

E Jean Carrol law, if you are turned down by a man you can sue for rape


38 posted on 01/31/2024 6:26:18 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: yesthatjallen

39 posted on 01/31/2024 6:28:26 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: yesthatjallen

Isn’t it unconstitutional to make laws to target individuals?


40 posted on 01/31/2024 6:32:21 PM PST by lurk (u)
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