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Five U.S. Marines Confirmed Dead in California Helicopter Crash
breitbart ^ | 2/8/2024 | simon kent

Posted on 02/08/2024 9:40:27 AM PST by bitt

Five U.S. Marine Corps (USMC) members aboard a helicopter that went missing on a flight from Nevada to California were confirmed dead Thursday morning.

A search-and-rescue operation was launched for the CH-53E Super Stallion after it was “reported overdue” on Wednesday, as Breitbart News reported.

The heavy-lift cargo helicopter was on a training flight from a Nevada Air Force base to an air station near San Diego.

The crew was flying in an historic storm that dumped snow and rain across California, conditions that also hampered search and rescue efforts.

It was later found in the snow-covered California mountains – about 45 miles from its destination.

“It is with a heavy heart and profound sadness that I share the loss of five outstanding Marines from 3d Marine Aircraft Wing and the ‘Flying Tigers,'” Maj Gen Michael J Borgschulte, commander of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, said in a statement on Thursday.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confirmeddead; helicopter; marines; rip; semperfi; usmarines; usmc
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1 posted on 02/08/2024 9:40:27 AM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 02/08/2024 9:40:42 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: bitt

Prayers up...God rest their souls.....RIP, dear Marines.


3 posted on 02/08/2024 9:44:46 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: bitt

WTH was this mission so critical it had to be flown in a “ historic storm” ?


4 posted on 02/08/2024 9:45:25 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: bitt

Semper Fi, Marines.


5 posted on 02/08/2024 9:46:08 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: bitt

Waiting for Biden to claim that Beau died in a helicopter crash.


6 posted on 02/08/2024 9:47:21 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: silverleaf

Does he military take bad weather into account at all when deciding whether to fly a mission? And I understand that missions may need to be flown regardless of weather in certain situations. Was this one of those situations? Is there fear of being perceived as overly cautious on the military and that that would jeopardize promotions, etc?


7 posted on 02/08/2024 9:50:24 AM PST by desertsolitaire
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To: bitt

What happened to common sense? Why send them out in that weather?


8 posted on 02/08/2024 9:51:00 AM PST by Hattie
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To: desertsolitaire

Prayers for their souls and thanks for their sacrifice s for us all.


9 posted on 02/08/2024 9:51:03 AM PST by desertsolitaire
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To: silverleaf

Agreed, and only a training flight too ... willful incompetence

People in charge will be canned for approving this


10 posted on 02/08/2024 9:52:01 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: Hattie

You know what they say about “Military Intelligence”.


11 posted on 02/08/2024 9:52:20 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: silverleaf

Could it be no one wanted to stay at Nevada longer and wanted to get home or their food and lodging authorization ran out with no one cutting orders for them to stay.

There’s a myriad of reasons why they flew in a storm. I’m just guessing why they flew.


12 posted on 02/08/2024 9:52:54 AM PST by Redcitizen
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To: silverleaf
Our military does operate in dangerous weather quite often, often in conditions that civilians would NEVER operate in. They need to be able to do it in real life if a critical situation calls for it.

I had a friend who was a sailing up the East coast of the United States some years ago via the Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway with his family, and got caught in a vicious unexpected Nor'easter, and had to be rescued by the Coast Guard. But the Coasties went out in a chopper in that crazy weather, because that is what they had to do.

Same with the incident in 1952 that the movie "The Finest Hours" was based on that stars Chris Pine. I knew about this and had read the book, and actually saw the boat they went out in. Nobody would go out in that weather to rescue people in a boat like that. But they did.

We can agree that there are times when this shouldn't even be considered. But our military is well known for being able to do it. Heck, I was on a carrier, and there were times I wondered how on earth they could actually land planes with the big deck moving as it did, but they did. Of course, they also had days where they didn't fly for those reasons.

In this case, I don't know the details. I don't know what that mission was in this case.

13 posted on 02/08/2024 10:01:08 AM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: silverleaf

“WTH was this mission so critical it had to be flown in a ‘ historic storm’?”

Storms can develop quickly, and can rapidly turn into something that was neither expected nor anticipated. Rotary aircraft do not handle bad weather all that well.


14 posted on 02/08/2024 10:05:19 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: bitt

Dammit. Semper fi...


15 posted on 02/08/2024 10:06:30 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: ought-six

If you followed the news from California you’d know this storm was tracked and predicted to be historic for days.

You rationale does not apply in this case.


16 posted on 02/08/2024 10:08:01 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: bitt

I’m so skeptical and cynical about our government. My first thought was one or more of these guys knew something they shouldn’t have known.


17 posted on 02/08/2024 10:11:29 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ought-six

I think I read about the coming storm before it hit.


18 posted on 02/08/2024 10:12:10 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts pt know hoto-op locations.)
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To: desertsolitaire

Somebody decided this mission and these men were worth the risk.
The widows parents and children will prob never know.

As I posted above the intensity and unusual nature of this storm was known for days.

I take this personally because I was only 5 yr old when the men came to our door and told my mother my Dad was never coming home. Over 60 years and I remember. And I know what those widows and kids will live with for the rest of their lives.

Hope the trip to Mirimar at night in that storm was a noble cause to die for.


19 posted on 02/08/2024 10:12:44 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: Hattie

“Why send them out in that weather?”

Because the pinhead who gave the order knows he/she will never be held accountable for it.


20 posted on 02/08/2024 10:13:01 AM PST by MeganC (Ruzzians aren't people. )
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