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Closing Arguments
SteynonLine ^ | February 8, 2024 | McAleer & McElhinney

Posted on 02/08/2024 1:30:42 PM PST by Twotone

On Wednesday, late in the day at 4pm Deep State Standard Time, Mann vs Simberg and Steyn finally went to the jury, and they retired to deliberate. So now we await their verdict - as, on this same day just a few blocks away, President Trump awaits the decision of a supposedly "conservative" Supreme Court on whether he can be permitted to appear on the ballot. I am exhausted by what passes for "justice" in America, and I expect he feels the same.

In my case, the last phase of the trial - closing arguments - began yesterday after lunch: closing arguments - first, lead counsel John Williams for plaintiff Michael E Mann; next, Victoria Weatherford for defendant Rand Simberg; and then Mark Steyn for Mark Steyn.

Oh, and after that Williams returned for his "rebuttal" - because, under the disgusting perversion of the norms of justice operated by DC and other US courts, it is not the accused who gets the last word but his accuser.

You might recall that exactly a week ago we linked to Kerry Wakefield's excellent primer on the trial from The Spectator Down Under. This was Miss Wakefield's final paragraph:

Given the vindictive USD$83 million damages found against Trump in his case against serial rape accuser E. Jean Carroll, one cannot be optimistic about any jury trial in deep blue Washington DC. But Steyn is …

(Excerpt) Read more at steynonline.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defamation; hockeystick; marksteyn; michaelmann; steyn
For those following the Steyn vs Mann defamation trial. Audio of court dramatizations at the link...
1 posted on 02/08/2024 1:30:42 PM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone
One of the sadder conclusions to draw from this case, the Trump cases, Giuliani, the Flynn case, and especially the J6 cases is that the courts are happy to be one of the primary instruments of suppressing liberty in the United States.

Just like in Europe you're free to say what you want as long as it does not contradict the preferred narrative of the ruling class.

2 posted on 02/08/2024 1:55:21 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

One of the sadder conclusions to draw from this case, the Trump cases, Giuliani, the Flynn case, and especially the J6 cases is that the courts are happy to be one of the primary instruments of suppressing liberty in the United States.
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I don’t disagree but would also add this.... and they do this by various means not the least of which is that they seek to bankrupt all those who they see as opposing their views. It is obvious they have done this to Steyn as well as Giuliani and Flynn. Here is some of the court dialogue when Steyn asked Mann what it has cost him so far (found here... https://www.steynonline.com/14081/michael-mann-is-not-a-victim )

Mann: Thus far, I don’t believe that I have made payments, but I’m not sure. I don’t think I have.

Question: So, you don’t think you’ve paid any money in 12 years for your lawyers in this case, is that right?

Mann: As of yet, not to my knowledge.

Question: And you don’t have a financial debt to any of these lawyers or their law firms for legal fees that you will have to pay, win or lose, after this trial?

Mann: I’m not sure about that. I don’t think I do.

So Mann isn’t paying a penny but they have driven Mark Steyn into bankruptcy both with his wallet and his health. Who is paying for what Mann did? Is it Penn State, other benefactors and donors etc.? That Steyn and Simberg should win is obvious to anyone with half a brain... but why should something that never cost a penny to the plaintiff be allowed to bankrupt them?


3 posted on 02/08/2024 2:58:03 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: hecticskeptic

This is also true for men in dv cases.

Any woman around here can accuse a man of dv without proof and be given full raft of attorneys and interns for free.

The Man is paying 10 to 30k to stay out of jail.


4 posted on 02/08/2024 3:01:26 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: pierrem15

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4216032/posts
Oh and on up-thread posting, add Peter Navarro to the list of those they’ve bankrupted....

By the way, Steyn himself wrote very insightful piece about the trial a bit earlier today.... https://www.steynonline.com/14082/closing-arguments


5 posted on 02/08/2024 3:04:07 PM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: Twotone

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6 posted on 02/08/2024 3:05:10 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: hecticskeptic

Under British law, the loser of a civil suit has to pay the opposing team. Should happen here, too.


7 posted on 02/08/2024 3:48:18 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

The good guys lost.


8 posted on 02/08/2024 3:50:07 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: hecticskeptic; pierrem15
...add Peter Navarro to the list of those they’ve bankrupted....

And John Eastman...

9 posted on 02/08/2024 4:59:12 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: KC Burke

I should have made clear: a losing plaintiff pays.


10 posted on 02/08/2024 5:01:13 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: hecticskeptic

Thank you for the link to Mark’s essay. Heartbreaking. I got a gift certificate to keep as a souvenir.


11 posted on 02/09/2024 8:18:55 AM PST by gloryblaze
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