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Rationing ammo and checking dealing updates from US lawmakers... That's really bizarre to me.. more than meets the eye here.
1 posted on 02/18/2024 11:33:42 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s called lying.


2 posted on 02/18/2024 11:35:25 AM PST by EEGator
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Yes, it is propaganda bullshat. Even if Congress passed a bill it wouldn’t help any time soon.

So this is pure BS.


3 posted on 02/18/2024 11:36:14 AM PST by dforest
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Why not get the Eeeee-yew to pony up the funds for the US MIC this time?


4 posted on 02/18/2024 11:37:15 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Have they sent agents to beat up speaker Johnson yet?


5 posted on 02/18/2024 11:38:39 AM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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perhaps there would be much more ammo if Ukrainian leadership had not siphoned off so much of Biden’s billions of dollars - US tax-payer billions, that is!

when we fail to place conditions of monetary gifts, we are inviting theft.


7 posted on 02/18/2024 11:43:21 AM PST by elpadre
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It only took a few seconds to find them some ammo:

https://ammo.com/brands/wolf-ammo


9 posted on 02/18/2024 11:44:04 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: ChicagoConservative27

We’re not the only country that has bullets to “loan”.


11 posted on 02/18/2024 11:44:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ukraine could sell territory to Poland, Hungary or to an American billionaire for an independent country.

Imagine Muskland, where income tax is only levied for 10 years(the amount of time the US gets to grab income tax from Americans renouncing US citizenship).


12 posted on 02/18/2024 11:45:23 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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If Putin invaded Belarus, would the Quisling Puppet Biden be sending billions to defend that country?

No he would not. The reason is that Lukashenko is not a prancing homosexual. Biden only supports Globohomo’s like Zelenskyy.

In fact, I doubt Puppet Biden would send ANY aide to ANY of the former soviet republics (except the Baltic countries because they approve the degenerate LGBT agenda).


13 posted on 02/18/2024 11:48:32 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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When it comes to Soviet field artillery ammo expenditure there are numbers of 1944 suggesting this share:

76 mm guns....................... 31,939,000 rounds (average ~6.25 kg)
107 mm guns...................... 99,800 rounds (average ~ 17 kg)
122 mm howitzers/guns...........8,378,500 rounds (average ~ 22 kg, howitzers)
152 mm howitzers..................3,543,100 rounds ( average ~ 43 kg howitzers)
203 mm howitzers....................167,770 rounds (average ~ 100 kilos )
210 mm guns................................ 50 rounds (average ~ 135 kilos) (these low figures are likely not true)
305 mm howitzers........................ 660 rounds (average ~ 340 kilos)

when we go to Soviet mortar ammo expenditure (1944):

50 mm mortar: 3,236,500 rounds ( average ~0.85 kilos)
82 mm mortar: 42,550 700 rounds (average ~3.3 kilos)
120 mm mortar: 15,454 000 rounds (average ~15.8 kilos)
160 mm mortar: 12,200 rounds (average ~40.8 kilos )
280 mm mortar : 3,320 rounds (average ~ 246 kilos

Total 61,643,320 rounds, total weight 392,176 tons and average weight of round about 6.36 kilos. These weights taken from wikipedia sources and estimated.

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=236220


14 posted on 02/18/2024 11:51:49 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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“Suck it up and pass the bill,” he urged his Capitol Hill colleagues.”

No. Close the border 100% and maybe, just maybe we will talk about it.

L


15 posted on 02/18/2024 11:52:21 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Sorry, giving bullets out to people we suckered to die for us is not in line with the Aloha Spirit....


17 posted on 02/18/2024 11:53:04 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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Let the EU provide their continent’s weapons and ammunition, we’ve go our own problems inside the USA with Democrats, RINOs, China and other enemy nations and peoples and even more problems crossing our borders with little or not resistance.


18 posted on 02/18/2024 11:54:20 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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How can this be???

Just a couple of days ago some neo-con pseudo-con warmonger assured me that the Zelenskyy team had all the small arms ammo they need; all they really need is 155mm Howitzer ammo.


19 posted on 02/18/2024 11:54:25 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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So Ukraine switched from Commie bloc to NATO ammo ?

Asking for a friend.

20 posted on 02/18/2024 11:57:19 AM PST by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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Funny how that works.

What was the excuse when they lost Mariupol?

What was the excuse when they lost Bakhmute?

They had plenty of bullets and $200 billion of our dollars we printed to give 'em!

And now Avdiivka.

Any port/excuse in a storm or the corollary, don't let a crisis go to waste!

21 posted on 02/18/2024 11:59:17 AM PST by icclearly ( )
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Tables about Soviet and German artillery ammunition production and expenditure:
1) in thousands of shells: https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/266975.html
2) in tons: https://paul-atrydes.livejournal.com/267153.html

Not all calibres/gun types are included (especially for the Germans).

[I can’t read Russian yet.]


22 posted on 02/18/2024 11:59:57 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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“Within a week of Keller’s meeting in Washington, Chrysler vice president Charles L. Jacobson, tasked with organizing and running the new operation, got an Army Ordnance team to inspect and approve the Evansville plant and a letter of intent for the making of 5,000,000 .45 caliber cartridges a day.

“One week later, Army Ordnance phoned Jacobson and increased the order to 7,500,000 rounds a day.

“Within twenty-four hours Army Ordnance again called and gave Jacobson another change order – increasing production to 10,000,000 rounds a day. Before the month ended, that number had jumped yet again to 12,500,000 rounds. Jacobson had doubts such an order could be fulfilled, but with Keller telling him to make it happen, Jacobson worked out a co-production agreement with Sunbeam, who had a plant near Evansville. On Feb. 18, 1942, Washington’s Birthday, the formal contract with the government was signed. The transformation of the Evansville plant from assembly line to arsenal began the next day.

“Cartridges made at the Evansville arsenal had seven parts, passed through 48 processing operations, and had to survive 334 quality control inspections. On June 30, 1942, the first bullets produced there were test fired. From June 1942 to April 20, 1944 when the contract ended, Chrysler’s Evansville arsenal produced 96 percent of the military’s .45 caliber cartridges: 3,264,281,914 rounds. Rejection rate of cartridges was less then .1 percent of production.

“It also produced almost a half-billion .30 caliber cartridges...”

“Because there was a shortage of rolling mills, rather than copper, most of the cartridges out of Evansville were made out of steel, not brass. New technology and equipment had to be developed to make sure steel cartridges were as reliable as brass ones.”

https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/bullets-by-the-billions-chrysler-switches-world-war-ii-production-from-cars-to-cartridges/


24 posted on 02/18/2024 12:06:45 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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A shrewd political move by the Biden controllers:

Biden had the authority to change his policy at the border by using executive orders just like he did to reverse Trumps border policy on day one of his administration. That would have released the funding for Ukraine blocked in the house. But the 340 page bill had the poison pill and deal breaker clause of allowing up to 2 million “undocumented immigrants”(Not counting the gotaways) to enter the USA every year.

Instead of getting funding for Ukraine and securing the border by simply changing his policies on the border, Biden gets to have his cake and eat it too. Keep the Biden Border Invasion going full throttle and blame the Republicans for Putin’s rape of Ukraine.

Too bad about Ukraine though.


25 posted on 02/18/2024 12:08:56 PM PST by Uncle Lonny
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“Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) posted on X, referring to the congressional chaos over proposed legislation that includes billions of dollars in additional funding for Ukraine. Suck it up and pass the bill,” he urged his Capitol Hill colleagues”

Dig it out of your own pocket, Brian. And by the way, have you ever received any funds from Ukraine?


28 posted on 02/18/2024 12:27:46 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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