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Heavily armed 'optionally crewed' ships to enter service under massive reshaping of Australia's naval fleet
ABC NEWS ^ | 19 Feb 2024 | Andrew Greene

Posted on 02/21/2024 5:18:28 AM PST by george76

Six large and "optionally crewed" naval vessels heavily armed with missiles will be added to Australia's surface fleet under a dramatic $11 billion reshaping of the navy that will also see the acquisition of 11 new general-purpose frigates to be partly built overseas.

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long-awaited "Enhanced Lethality Surface Combatant Fleet", which will include six Hunter-class frigates, reduced from an original plan of nine, as well as upgraded versions of the existing Hobart-class destroyers fitted with Tomahawk cruise missiles.

Under the sweeping overhaul, Australia's current fleet of combat-ready warships would rise from 11 to 26, consisting of nine "Tier 1" frigates and destroyers and 11 smaller general-purpose frigates, as well as six optionally crewed vessels which will form a "Tier 2" force.

Defence Minister Richard Marles said that, while the optionally crewed vessels had "the capacity to operate in an uncrewed fashion", Australia's intention was to use crews.

Australia's oldest currently serving warship, HMAS Anzac, will be immediately retired ahead of the gradual replacement of the aging Anzac-class fleet with new frigates which will first be built in either Germany, Korea, Japan or Spain.

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The planned number of Offshore Patrol Vessels being built in Western Australia will be halved to six and will eventually form part of a planned fleet of 25 minor war vessels dominated by Evolved Cape Class patrol boats.

The government will consider the eventual replacement for the Hobart-class destroyers "in the context of the 2026 National Defence Strategy" to align with a continuous naval shipbuilding strategy at Adelaide's Osborne Naval shipyard.

Releasing the plan at Sydney's Garden Island Naval base, Mr Marles insisted the plan was "fully funded" and would inject an additional $1.7 billion over the forward estimates and $11.1 billion over the next decade into defence.

"The enhanced lethality surface combatant fleet will ensure the navy is optimised for operations in our current and future environment, underpinned by the meticulous assessment conducted by the Independent Analysis Team," Mr Marles said.

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This significant advancement in navy capability that will be delivered under this plan requires a strong, sovereign defence industry," Defence Industry Minister Pat Conroy added.

The Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Mark Hammond, called it "a serious investment and a serious challenge for our navy to step up and deliver".

"This is a real shot in the arm in terms of understanding the important role that the Australian navy sailors play across the Indo-Pacific," he said.

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"This will be the largest surface combatant force we've operated in generations. It will also be, in time, the most lethal."

Coalition defence spokesman Andrew Hastie accused Mr Marles of weakness for failing to deliver enough short-term extra funding.

"The truth is that Richard Marles went to cabinet and lost to Jim Chalmers, Penny Wong and Katy Gallagher. He couldn't secure any more money," he said.

"Labor also has a major recruitment and retention crisis on its hands. Morale is at an all-time low … What is their strategy to find and hold talented young Australians to crew both our future submarines and our future fleet?"


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; China; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; coal; ironore; navalfleet; navy

1 posted on 02/21/2024 5:18:28 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

You can send as many Ships or guns to a country. But can Australia muster the manpower strength to use them?

I say this knowing the US Military readiness is becoming disturbingly woke.


2 posted on 02/21/2024 5:23:35 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard

Australia, unlike the US, neighbors its adversaries.


3 posted on 02/21/2024 5:30:09 AM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦...Motels for Migrants give legitimate addresses for mail-in ballots.)
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To: george76

Board, reprogram, off to Tortuga…


4 posted on 02/21/2024 5:33:04 AM PST by EEGator
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To: george76

“optionally crewed”

Say what? 🤔


5 posted on 02/21/2024 5:33:39 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

“Optionally crewed” means the ships are being designed for remote control or perhaps autonomous control by AI.


6 posted on 02/21/2024 5:37:57 AM PST by MeganC ("the beholder, not the beheld, is the rightful judge of the beheld's public identity")
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To: Does so

I don’t know much about Australian politics, but it is evident that China is expanding in their influence and making aggressive statements. As with Finland and Poland, the threat of aggression has diminished pacifist sentiments. Keep in mind that Australia is the primary source for iron ore for Red China’s steel mills. The two countries have been at odds over pricing issues for the iron ore. The Australians, like the Japanese, South Koreans, and Taiwanese, must worry about American military capability and political reliability.


7 posted on 02/21/2024 5:39:04 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

I hadn’t read of iron ore, but importing Aussie COAL is big with Red China.


8 posted on 02/21/2024 5:42:33 AM PST by Does so ( 🇺🇦...Motels for Migrants give legitimate addresses for mail-in ballots.)
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To: MeganC

“the ships are being designed for remote control or perhaps autonomous control by AI”

I hope they have better luck with that than Tesla


9 posted on 02/21/2024 5:44:12 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: george76; naturalman1975
I wonder what “naturalman1975”,a former officer in the Royal Australian Navy,might have to say about this.
10 posted on 02/21/2024 5:50:13 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: Wallace T.

Not that I’m an expert in such matters but I’d think that both Australia and New Zealand should be concerned about Red China’s increasing strength in the Pacific and our increasing weakness.


11 posted on 02/21/2024 5:53:04 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: Does so

What little I know about Australia’s economy suggests that she’s become just another mining colony for her neighbor to the north.


12 posted on 02/21/2024 5:55:37 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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To: MeganC

What happens when an autonomous war vessel gets hacked to attack the country it came from? That is a distinct possibility. Any device without an air gap can be hacked, given enough time.


13 posted on 02/21/2024 5:57:41 AM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Dutch Boy

Skynet.


14 posted on 02/21/2024 6:27:13 AM PST by MeganC ("the beholder, not the beheld, is the rightful judge of the beheld's public identity")
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To: Does so

Both coal and iron ore. The Chinese and the Australians have had disputes over the price of iron ore. The Chinese have been looking for other sources, and have spent several billion dollars to develop iron mines in Guinea, West Africa. Along with the Russians, the Chinese have been gradually been gaining control in West Africa, especially in the former French colonies.


15 posted on 02/21/2024 6:48:02 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Gay State Conservative

Given China’s entry into the Solomons it would more accurately be her neighbor to the East and a much closer neighbor as well.


16 posted on 02/21/2024 6:56:56 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: V_TWIN

Maybe should be : “optionally screwed”.


17 posted on 02/21/2024 7:15:32 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Wallace T.

Australia has also disarmed it’s citizenry. A close friend of mine had to turn in his firearms, which he did, and was then facing legal issues due to his collection of replica firearms. Apparently the government down under is afraid they can be made functional. Me thinks that they need to worry more about China than a 70 year old man’s toy gun collection.


18 posted on 02/21/2024 7:53:23 AM PST by Semper Vigilantis (If the government wants you to have it fight it like your life depended on it - it probably does.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I've been in hospital, so only just seeing this.

(I'm largely recovered but it was a nasty scare).

The current (Labor) federal government has done more than I expected them to do with this announcement, but I don't believe it's anywhere near enough. I just don't ever expect much on defence when Labor is in office (to their credit, they have continued to support the AUKUS arrangements and the idea of acquiring nuclear attack submarines - I never expected to see any support for that from a Labor government in this country, so I have to acknowledge they might be slowly moving in the right direction on defence).

I think they may be putting a great deal of faith in the idea that 'optionally crewed' vessels will develop into something useful, but given how difficult it can be to get people to join the forces now, that may be a basket we have to put eggs in for practical reasons.

19 posted on 03/15/2024 2:27:46 AM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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