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University of Florida has 1 administrator for every 4 undergrads
College Fix ^ | FEBRUARY 21, 2024 | EMILY FOWLER

Posted on 02/22/2024 8:56:36 AM PST by george76

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To: george76

If I remember correctly, at Stanford and Ivy League schools there is one administrator per student.


21 posted on 02/22/2024 9:46:30 AM PST by C19fan
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To: dfwgator

Does a football analyst count as an “administrator”?


22 posted on 02/22/2024 9:47:18 AM PST by C19fan
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To: george76

What?!?!?! WAY TOO FEW ADMINISTRATORS. Need to get that ratio to 3:1 and incidentally increase fees and tuition to pay for them Why I’m sure the DIE office alone could provide a couple of hundred well paid sinecures for people of color whose sole job would be to constantly scan everything written and said on campus for things to be offended by.


23 posted on 02/22/2024 10:12:46 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: george76

The state board of regents needs to simply abolish the department of “diversity” and fire every administrator employed by it.

Then go through courses with a fine toothed comb and abolish any that are obviously just leftist indoctrination.

Though it sickens me to see this at my alma mater, I know its at least as bad if not worse elsewhere.


24 posted on 02/22/2024 10:17:14 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: george76

The whole nation’s university system has become the unemployment office for failed liberal politicians.


25 posted on 02/22/2024 10:33:15 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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To: george76
UF does seem out of line with that ratio of administrative staff to students. However, there may be some reasons.

First, some history, then some insights. Tenured faculty were used in an administrative capacity on many campuses. For example a tenured faculty member would become a department head, and reduce the amount of teaching that they did.

Tenured faculty also headed research committees. The wrote and administered grants, as well as heading laboratories and administering such labs.

Some faculty also were responsible for running student organizations, helping lead/chaperon study-abroad programs, help students apply for prestigious scholarships, etc.

Now to the insights. First a tenured faculty person is far more expensive and difficult to fire than a pure administrative hire for most of the above functions. Part of the reason for using tenured faculty was that they were viewed by their piers as being part of the club and therefore other professor PHD’s would listen to them as opposed to a “under educated” Administrator.

Next when you count “Administrators” exactly what does that mean? Is a defensive line coach on the football team an administrator? Certainly, not faculty. How about a PhD and MD, who heads a university hospital medical lab, but doesn't teach anymore, or gave up tenure for a much higher salary?

As pointed out in the article, many universities have not had that much student growth. University educations are expensive and less in demand. Most are having problems with the financial statements. Lots are merging or downsizing or changing focus from granting degrees to increasing the certifications and online programs the staff. They are also spending a lot more staff time on fund raising and hiring professional fund raising staff, much of which is by administrative staff.

Finally, the number of state and federally funded requirements in higher education has and continues to increase dramatically each year. It doesn't matter if it is Title 9 reporting requirements, Diversity training requirements, audited reports on federal grant money, the paperwork is huge and getting worse each year. Administering federal backed loans to students require lots of paperwork.

So yes, I can understand that the number of administrative jobs in increasing rapidly. Depending on which box you put certain university employees in (staff, faculty, tenured faculty) I can easily see why it may make economic sense to hire non-faculty over promoting tenured faculty and why tenured faculty might refuse some administrative duties requiring a university to hire pure administrative staff.

26 posted on 02/22/2024 10:36:34 AM PST by Robert357
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To: dfwgator

In 1974 freshman classes seemed to have about 1 instructor per 50 students. ( my calculus class had 120 people in an auditorium). These were weeding courses designed to weed out the people who couldn’t learn from the textbook. I lasted 2 quarters, having come from a highs school where senior classes were 1 instructor per 15-20 students and there was a lot of interaction in the classes. I never saw an “administrator” and the only contact was a mailed notice of academic suspension. UF only cared about tuition money, textbook money, and an easy life for the staff. As Frank Zappa said, go to college for a diploma, go to the library for an education.


27 posted on 02/22/2024 10:41:30 AM PST by Waverunner
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To: C19fan

Harvard University employs about 1,352 full-time administrators for every 1,000 undergraduate students enrolled at the university..

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4192194/posts


28 posted on 02/22/2024 10:41:40 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Administration bloat is a huge problem everywhere.


29 posted on 02/22/2024 10:49:31 AM PST by Stravinsky
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To: george76

Administration includes custodial staff.


30 posted on 02/22/2024 10:55:07 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: TexasGator

So what’s he waiting for?


31 posted on 02/22/2024 10:59:20 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: george76

University of Florida has 1 administrator for every 4 undergrads

You would think they could better service than a cruise ship...


32 posted on 02/22/2024 11:05:15 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Leaning Right

I think the US Navy has more admirals than ships.


33 posted on 02/22/2024 11:12:42 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Waverunner

I miss Frank.


34 posted on 02/22/2024 11:13:15 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: cgbg

Stop giving.


35 posted on 02/22/2024 12:24:36 PM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: george76

No wonder it’s such a ripoff financially not to mention weird ass Marxist professors


36 posted on 02/22/2024 12:39:26 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: TexasGator

Desantis chose a RINO to rebuild the university?


37 posted on 02/22/2024 12:41:44 PM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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“Desantis chose a RINO to rebuild the university?”

Desantis chose a strong administrator and staunch conservative to rebuild the university.


38 posted on 02/22/2024 12:54:31 PM PST by TexasGator
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To: george76

I’m a Gator through and through. But, this is a (quite) bit overkill!


39 posted on 02/22/2024 3:34:37 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (BOYCOTT Anheuser Busch, the NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR & Faux Snooze! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper! )
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To: george76

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWiXZ7k99Q4&t=4s


40 posted on 02/22/2024 3:40:38 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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