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1 posted on 02/22/2024 8:56:36 AM PST by george76
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Somebody has to watch over those football players.

But seriously Sasse better address this.


2 posted on 02/22/2024 8:58:13 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Sweet gig…


3 posted on 02/22/2024 8:58:29 AM PST by EEGator
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This is the bloat typical of late stage institutions—a warning sign that total collapse is near.

They need to fire 90% of the non-teaching staff—minimum.


8 posted on 02/22/2024 9:04:21 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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It’s how the Left funds their standing army in the universities.


13 posted on 02/22/2024 9:07:49 AM PST by kiryandil
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Well, they're necessary.

Administrators have to make sure there are no good grades awarded for hard work and/or good application of intellect (i.e., no merit scholarship permitted). And that means that each class has to be monitored carefully to make sure that only minorities get the best grades (based on skin color or intersectionality).

DEI or die!

16 posted on 02/22/2024 9:13:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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I don’t know if it’s true today. But back in 2010 the UK had more generals than main battle tanks. And the British Army is a respected institution (I guess).

So maybe we should give the University of Florida a break, at least until they have more administrators than students.
🤔


17 posted on 02/22/2024 9:20:11 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Here’s an example. Back in the day there were no computers. Now with computers academia uses more people to do less work.

This is Obama giving the student loan system over to the federal govt in 2009. The govt gives money to the colleges. They rip off the kids and raise tuition even further

The colleges don’t even guarantee skills, much less, employment, for $60 to $120 k from these young people

I never want to hear kids getting blamed

They’re being used in a money laundering scandal that always comes back to that Harvard president and her promoter. Obama.


19 posted on 02/22/2024 9:26:54 AM PST by stanne
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One for every 4 students. So if one administrator goes on a luxury vacation then there will be a temporary shortage of someone to administer students. They could be left on their own. Helpless.

They should plan to hire more.


20 posted on 02/22/2024 9:37:46 AM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windowdirecs and rattle your walls.)
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If I remember correctly, at Stanford and Ivy League schools there is one administrator per student.


21 posted on 02/22/2024 9:46:30 AM PST by C19fan
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What?!?!?! WAY TOO FEW ADMINISTRATORS. Need to get that ratio to 3:1 and incidentally increase fees and tuition to pay for them Why I’m sure the DIE office alone could provide a couple of hundred well paid sinecures for people of color whose sole job would be to constantly scan everything written and said on campus for things to be offended by.


23 posted on 02/22/2024 10:12:46 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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The state board of regents needs to simply abolish the department of “diversity” and fire every administrator employed by it.

Then go through courses with a fine toothed comb and abolish any that are obviously just leftist indoctrination.

Though it sickens me to see this at my alma mater, I know its at least as bad if not worse elsewhere.


24 posted on 02/22/2024 10:17:14 AM PST by FLT-bird
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The whole nation’s university system has become the unemployment office for failed liberal politicians.


25 posted on 02/22/2024 10:33:15 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23 "And THIS is His commandment . . . . ")
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UF does seem out of line with that ratio of administrative staff to students. However, there may be some reasons.

First, some history, then some insights. Tenured faculty were used in an administrative capacity on many campuses. For example a tenured faculty member would become a department head, and reduce the amount of teaching that they did.

Tenured faculty also headed research committees. The wrote and administered grants, as well as heading laboratories and administering such labs.

Some faculty also were responsible for running student organizations, helping lead/chaperon study-abroad programs, help students apply for prestigious scholarships, etc.

Now to the insights. First a tenured faculty person is far more expensive and difficult to fire than a pure administrative hire for most of the above functions. Part of the reason for using tenured faculty was that they were viewed by their piers as being part of the club and therefore other professor PHD’s would listen to them as opposed to a “under educated” Administrator.

Next when you count “Administrators” exactly what does that mean? Is a defensive line coach on the football team an administrator? Certainly, not faculty. How about a PhD and MD, who heads a university hospital medical lab, but doesn't teach anymore, or gave up tenure for a much higher salary?

As pointed out in the article, many universities have not had that much student growth. University educations are expensive and less in demand. Most are having problems with the financial statements. Lots are merging or downsizing or changing focus from granting degrees to increasing the certifications and online programs the staff. They are also spending a lot more staff time on fund raising and hiring professional fund raising staff, much of which is by administrative staff.

Finally, the number of state and federally funded requirements in higher education has and continues to increase dramatically each year. It doesn't matter if it is Title 9 reporting requirements, Diversity training requirements, audited reports on federal grant money, the paperwork is huge and getting worse each year. Administering federal backed loans to students require lots of paperwork.

So yes, I can understand that the number of administrative jobs in increasing rapidly. Depending on which box you put certain university employees in (staff, faculty, tenured faculty) I can easily see why it may make economic sense to hire non-faculty over promoting tenured faculty and why tenured faculty might refuse some administrative duties requiring a university to hire pure administrative staff.

26 posted on 02/22/2024 10:36:34 AM PST by Robert357
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Administration bloat is a huge problem everywhere.


29 posted on 02/22/2024 10:49:31 AM PST by Stravinsky
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Administration includes custodial staff.


30 posted on 02/22/2024 10:55:07 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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University of Florida has 1 administrator for every 4 undergrads

You would think they could better service than a cruise ship...


32 posted on 02/22/2024 11:05:15 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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No wonder it’s such a ripoff financially not to mention weird ass Marxist professors


36 posted on 02/22/2024 12:39:26 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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I’m a Gator through and through. But, this is a (quite) bit overkill!


39 posted on 02/22/2024 3:34:37 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (BOYCOTT Anheuser Busch, the NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR & Faux Snooze! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper! )
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWiXZ7k99Q4&t=4s


40 posted on 02/22/2024 3:40:38 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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