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It’s official: Sweden to join NATO. Hungary finally lets Sweden into the military alliance, dealing a blow to Russia.
Politico Europe ^ | February 26, 2024 | Stuart Lau

Posted on 02/26/2024 8:29:51 AM PST by Miami Rebel

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To: ducttape45

Sweden has an excellent navy. They also make fighter jets.
Unlike most of the other NATO members, they actually have a decent military.
Adding Sweden to NATO is a direct counter to Russia in the Baltic.

Adding Sweden to NATO actually makes NATO stronger. Unlike, say adding Slovenia.


21 posted on 02/26/2024 8:56:28 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: ducttape45

For NATO, good.
It solidifies logistics (ports, airfields, roads, etc.) and adds “strategic depth” to Finland, the other new member, which is on the front line.
It also adds a bit more economic heft.


22 posted on 02/26/2024 8:56:44 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Alter Kaker

If you believe that I’ve a bridge in Brooklyn you can buy dirt cheap...


23 posted on 02/26/2024 8:56:56 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: Miami Rebel

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

I hope that it is OK to post this, The Second Coming, by W. B. Yeats.


24 posted on 02/26/2024 8:57:01 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty ( )
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
Sweden survived because of neutrality. Should war break out, they will be destroyed in 15 minutes.

I'm sure they'll be overrun by the same bumbling brutes who promised they could take Kyiv in 48 hours (and it's currently two years later).

25 posted on 02/26/2024 8:58:43 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Reily
Sweden had a nuclear weapons program that they supposedly shut down in the 1970s. They have a very technically proficient arms industry.

They also have an extremely capable little air force, with modern aircraft designed to fly from remote roads and unimproved air strips to make it impossible for Russia to destroy in a first strike.

26 posted on 02/26/2024 9:02:12 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Miami Rebel

Weird how two countries with histories of scores of years of neutrality aren’t as clearsighted as an internet typist.


Correct. The armchair isolationists sit comfortably under the American defense umbrella. They never have pay have to pay the bill for their defacto support of this genocidal Kremlin regime. Ukrainians and Russians aren’t so lucky.


27 posted on 02/26/2024 9:03:39 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Dagnabitt
Swedish society will be effectively Muslim in an other generation. Two tops.

2% of Sweden's population is Muslim.

28 posted on 02/26/2024 9:04:30 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Agree!


29 posted on 02/26/2024 9:05:12 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Angelino97

Your comments represent a valid fear.


30 posted on 02/26/2024 9:09:02 AM PST by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: Miami Rebel

“What is the obstacle to Russian ending the war yesterday?”

______________________________________

You put a façade on like you’re stupid enough to believe Russia started this war. People aren’t as blind as you delude yourself into believing they are.


31 posted on 02/26/2024 9:09:20 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Angelino97
We're about as strong as the Roman Empire was in 400 A.D.

Uh huh. Which is why the West dominates the world economically, militarily and culturally while Russia and China's populations continue to plummet.

But the internal rot is deep and total collapse is near.

I will concede that there are some weirdos in the West who want the West to fail - not sure why they would want that, and I find it a little strange that they haven't yet received the traditional treatment for traitors.

32 posted on 02/26/2024 9:09:28 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Angelino97; Alter Kaker

Might look strong from the outside. The military can still win some major battles. But the internal rot is deep and total collapse is near.


Not nearly as rotten as the Chomskyite blame America clap trap we see parroted by the Moscow Kremlin’s useful fools. That’s always been garbage.

How soon we forget it was Russia that collapsed twice in the last century and just recently had an internal coup requiring emergency physical defense of Moscow for the first time since 1941. Yet it’s the West that is near collapse? That’s a laughably naïve and incoherent position. Russia is fake and Potemkin. America has never stopped being great.


33 posted on 02/26/2024 9:09:47 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Mmogamer; jacknhoo; wildcard_redneck

Vlady’s “Special Military Failure” continues to live up to its name

Always fun to see Russia get its ass kicked by a country 1/20th its size

LOL!!!


34 posted on 02/26/2024 9:10:40 AM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: lodi90

America has never stopped being great.

________________________________________________

Then I guess we really don’t need Trump to win (or really need anything to change in this nation to any significant degree). Who knew?


35 posted on 02/26/2024 9:17:33 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: jacknhoo

I learn so much from Putinists like you.

I take it that like your hero you believe that it was Poland that was responsible for the Nazis invading it.


36 posted on 02/26/2024 9:19:19 AM PST by Miami Rebel
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To: ducttape45; Miami Rebel; plain talk; All

“To all the more knowledged people in FR, is this a bad move or a good move?”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It’s a perfectly good, common sense move.

The vast majority of the Swedish population are supporting Sweden’s entry in NATO and nearly all political parties do as well. The far-right party (The Sweden Democrats) and right parties are profoundly enthusiastic about it.
The Social Democrats are ok with it too.
Only the far left-party (the old communist party) is opposing Sweden’s entry into NATO. It’s typical for the far-left entities in Europe, they have always been complicit with Russia, one way to the other.

Sweden has been harassed by Russia for decades. Russian submarines entering into Swedish waters non-stop, aggressive violations of its air-space by armed Russian aircraft, the historic infiltration into Sweden’s politics via the far-left party (working with Russia) etc.. etc... The Swedish population has had enough.

I’m traveling between France, America and the Scandinavian countries non-stop. I know everything about what’s behind the tensions between Russia and Scandinavia.


37 posted on 02/26/2024 9:19:59 AM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: lodi90
Not nearly as rotten as ...

It's not either/or.

Just because Russia is weak doesn't mean the West is strong.

The future might well belong to the global South. An ugly and squalid future, a new Dark Age, culturally and technologically inferior to today.

But demographics is destiny. And demographics favors neither East nor West, but South.

38 posted on 02/26/2024 9:20:09 AM PST by Angelino97
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To: Miami Rebel

Don’t even talk to me, if you’re going to adhere to your room temperature IQ façade.


39 posted on 02/26/2024 9:22:10 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Your nation is a Welcher. You should probably keep a low profile on NATO.

Nearly two decades ago, NATO members agreed to, at minimum, record annual defence spending equivalent to 2 per cent of GDP. Since then, however, Canada has failed to uphold this promise.


40 posted on 02/26/2024 9:26:59 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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