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'Rust' armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed guilty of involuntary manslaughter
NBC News ^ | 3/6/24 | Chloe Melas

Posted on 03/06/2024 4:41:54 PM PST by hardspunned

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To: hardspunned

Everyone who handled that firearm that day is equally as guilty as she is.


41 posted on 03/06/2024 6:20:27 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Thank You Rush

I agree with everything you said but with a BIGGGG.... BUT.

And, that is that somebody DIED. It wasn’t that somebody got scratched on the forearm or a sprained ankle. It WAS that somebody (another young woman) is DEAD.

If she had a part in it, and the jury thought she did, she should pay a price and not walk off scott free. That said, I agree that the judge should not throw the book at her. Somebody said 18 months. That’s probably about right because she will probably be released for half that time for good behavior. Kudo’s to her mother for being right there with her!!!


42 posted on 03/06/2024 6:23:49 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: Equine1952
As much as we have been told, there was one live round in that revolver. It was in that cylinder in a position that would fire it at the pull of the trigger. You being experienced with revolvers, what would be the chance that the live round was in such a position, to go off at the first pull of the trigger? It would be a case of Russian roulette.
43 posted on 03/06/2024 6:26:54 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Beowulf9; All

Thanks for the extra information. I forgot about the strike, the politics and how nepotism lets some people get to positions they shouldn’t be in. So like our real lives, right? Fight on!


44 posted on 03/06/2024 6:30:59 PM PST by MikelTackNailer (Justice for the gulaged J-6ers. Rope for their persecutors.)
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To: ThatWillBeTheDay

Seth Kenney is my cousin, so I watched the trial closely. As armorer, Hannah G. had the duty to control firearms handling on the set so as to assure safety, to keep live rounds off the set, and to prevent any gun from ever having live rounds loaded. Numerous gun safety violations were shown, including the presence of live rounds on set and in an ammo mix left over from another production that Hannah G. foolishly used instead of prepared boxed ammo provided by Seth Kenney. Given that the defense failed to show anyone else as responsible for loading the revolver with a live round, Hannah G. was correctly convicted.


45 posted on 03/06/2024 6:37:57 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: hardspunned

They should try Tina Fey.


46 posted on 03/06/2024 6:45:22 PM PST by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: hardspunned
Hannah was reckless while trying to impress Arec Baldwin for career purposes as Armorer on the Rust Set before the shooting.

That deserves some punishment, however she was set up as the Fall Gal to take the screwing for Arec.

Baldwin should get three times the sentence she gets.

47 posted on 03/06/2024 6:50:50 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: ThatWillBeTheDay
I watched bits of her trial too.

Seemed rather young to have such a critical job.

48 posted on 03/06/2024 6:53:48 PM PST by Churchillspirit (Pray for President Trump)
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To: jonrick46

Doesn’t matter to play the game you have to cock the hammer and apply trigger pull. Only a complete idiot does that without checking the weapon. Or an asshole that doesn’t care. In Russian Roulette you aim at yourself not someone you’ve been arguing with.


51 posted on 03/06/2024 7:03:00 PM PST by Equine1952
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To: ThatWillBeTheDay

With regard to your second reason, Baldwin the actor was performing in a movie, and movies are make believe. I personally would never vote “guilty” because he pointed the gun and pull the trigger as an actor in a movie. His role as a producer is much more troubling.


52 posted on 03/06/2024 7:06:06 PM PST by devere
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To: ThatWillBeTheDay
There were pre-checked rounds in fresh sealed boxes from the prop ammo supplier (Seth Kenney), as well as ammo from her father in old boxes. That latter ammo supply included live rounds and was carelessly used by Hannah G.

Notably, the prosecution was not required to prove that Hannah G. knowingly put a live round in the gun, only that she was careless in loading the gun and did not affirmatively screen out any possible live rounds. The defense never showed that anyone else was at fault in loading the gun.

53 posted on 03/06/2024 7:10:38 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: Thank You Rush

Her dad is/was a long-time Hollywood armorer, I think. She was even younger when it happened: her first solo as a production’s chief armorer.


56 posted on 03/06/2024 7:26:02 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: billorites

I also know what he is and what he isn’t.


57 posted on 03/06/2024 7:26:39 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Beowulf9

I’m amazed that 1) real weapons 2) with anmunition(!) are used in Hollywood productions these. There are so many ways nowadays to produce inert replicas that can’t possibly be loaded with live ammunition and still employ practical and post-production effects.


58 posted on 03/06/2024 7:34:05 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: ThatWillBeTheDay

exactly- he refused to take safety classes, felt he was above them apparently- and he went on to break something like 18 different safety rules for handling guns, even stage guns, while on the set- he was so reckless apparently that people walked off the set due to his recklessness-

Had alec followed safety precuations while handling the gun- noone woudl have died because the gun would have NEVER been pointed directly at anyone-

Someone posted a list of the rules to follow whenever handling guns on set- and it was clear that he broke nearly every rule- but yet felt he was above safety classes-


59 posted on 03/06/2024 7:37:24 PM PST by Bob434
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Gun prop safety preparedness was wholly her responsibility

It’s the major facet of her job


60 posted on 03/06/2024 7:41:22 PM PST by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind)
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