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'Rust' armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed guilty of involuntary manslaughter
NBC News ^ | 3/6/24 | Chloe Melas

Posted on 03/06/2024 4:41:54 PM PST by hardspunned

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To: DAC21

They are sure liable civil wise

Likely Baldwin is too

But not criminally

Charging him is a reach

No matter how much we all dislike him here


61 posted on 03/06/2024 7:43:00 PM PST by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind)
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To: Equine1952

Baldwin is a gun expert?


62 posted on 03/06/2024 7:43:28 PM PST by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind)
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To: algore

Why?

A job on a movie production is firearms props armorer

That job entails procurement and management and loading and safety

She is supposed to hand actors inspected firearms

All actors except those who know guns expect this and rely on the armorer

Actors who know guns may check it themselves but I doubt doofus knows guns like average freeper

She is where the buck stopped and she failed

They had shot live rounds in these guns earlier

And to my knowledge Baldwin didn’t

That’s where the live round got in

And few actors check guns handed them since few know shit


63 posted on 03/06/2024 7:48:49 PM PST by wardaddy (. A disease in the public mind)
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To: Thank You Rush

I do feel sorry for her still, though. Like you said, it’s a rough row to hoe.


64 posted on 03/06/2024 8:00:19 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: bigbob

As ‘Armorer’ , isn’t her whole job just to check things out and assure safety?
Why did she bring live ammunition onto the set?


65 posted on 03/06/2024 8:02:11 PM PST by Reynoldo (BurnLootMurder)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Baldwin was the executive producer.

Baldwin had to have ok’d the the hire of an newbie and possibly inept armorer.

Baldwin actually knows a lot about guns.

Baldwin knew there were safety and Union labor issues on the set. (early speculation was that someone was trying to sabotage the shooting.)

Baldwin refused to go to the ‘mandatory’ safety class with the armorer.

Baldwin pointed the gun at a person, not at a mirror or the camera

What Baldwin did was not in the script, he was playing around

Baldwin pulled the trigger and then denied it.


66 posted on 03/06/2024 8:09:57 PM PST by algore
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To: Equine1952

Well said.


67 posted on 03/06/2024 8:13:22 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: ansel12
She was a flaky stoner who probably pulled lots of strings to get those jobs.

She was definitely a flaky stoner. A party girl. But she had a very convenient string to pull. Her dad, Thell Reed, is/was one of the top armorers in Hollywood. Tombstone, 3:10 to Yuma, The Quick and the Dead, L.A. Confidential, Django Unchained, Mr & Mrs Smith, Blade, Miami Vice, etc, etc, etc. And he is also an exhibition shooter, and that's a lot more fun. And sometimes requires live rounds. I think Hannah liked that fun part a lot more than the serious job of an armorer. And hanging around movie stars (and getting high with them) is so cool!

Those of us who know armorers from our military days (or police, or even your shooting range RSO), know they are very serious people when on the job. No BSing, no joking, everyone do exactly as I say. They know their job is to prevent someone getting shot, and potentially saving a life. Hannah just wasn't up to that job.

68 posted on 03/06/2024 8:40:55 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: Reynoldo
Why did she bring live ammunition onto the set?

Because after hours, they were partying on the set. Drinking, smoking and firing the "prop" guns with live ammo.

69 posted on 03/06/2024 8:45:01 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: hardspunned

She had the best makeover of all time for the trial but it didn’t help her.


70 posted on 03/06/2024 8:56:36 PM PST by anton
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To: hardspunned

Not one of them, Boo Boo, this time.


71 posted on 03/06/2024 10:03:53 PM PST by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TThose look good)
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To: hardspunned

She should not be the only one. They were running a very
sloppy operation. Baldwin was in a meeting with staff that
very morning addressing safety issues. The staff didn’t
think they took it seriously.


72 posted on 03/06/2024 10:45:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: devere
I personally would never vote “guilty” because he pointed the gun and pulled the trigger as an actor in a movie.

Baldwin the actor should have been trained not to accept a firearm from anybody other than the armorer. When the assistant director tried to hand it to him, he should have realized that safety protocols had broken down. Baldwin the producer should have taken immediate action to determine how it was possible for his armorer to be missing.

I've supervised the design, installation, and operation of a safety system with potential for extreme harm. ANY failure of the system to perform as intended was a VERY BIG DEAL.

73 posted on 03/06/2024 10:51:44 PM PST by William Tell
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To: ansel12

She was a diversity hire and probably should never have had that job.


74 posted on 03/06/2024 10:57:57 PM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: ThatWillBeTheDay

The jury saw otherwise.


75 posted on 03/06/2024 11:59:08 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: billorites

Once again the janitor gets the blame, we got some one! while the culprit gets away with murder. When is the trial of the “gun” going to be scheduled? Probably next up until they run out of persons places and things to prosecute. They will forgive and forget alec over time like OJ


76 posted on 03/07/2024 1:51:44 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: anton

My thought too! Changed the color of her hair from blonde to brunette!


77 posted on 03/07/2024 5:04:25 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: Equine1952

Truth!


78 posted on 03/07/2024 7:44:58 AM PST by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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