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Tim Tebow Testifies Before Congress, Speaking On Child Exploitation And Human Trafficking
One America News ^ | 6 Mar, 2024 | Abril Elfi

Posted on 03/07/2024 3:57:00 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: mewzilla

Well, the NFL used to exist to make money...

Now I’m wondering if, like Hollyweird, it now exists, at least in part, to launder money.


21 posted on 03/07/2024 5:39:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Tim Tebow had many of the same flaws as Kapernick, and an analyst had this to say about Kapernick...and from what I saw, applied to Tebow as well:

He has no touch. He could throw long bombs, but anything else would get delivered, inaccurately, at high velocity. He had and has zero touch for a quarterback.

He can't read a defense. The book on him was to simply watch him when he got the ball and dropped back. Watch the stripe on his helmet. When he gets the ball snapped to him, he looks to the right or the left. Good quarterbacks like Brady, Rodgers and Brees look straight up the field when they get the ball. Kapernick looks. He can't break the habit. And defensive backs got the book on him. The defensive coaches said: "Watch the helmet stripe."

Kapernick cuts the field in half for the defenders. And when he can't get the first read, he is lost. He can't progress through his reads and what makes it even worse for him, he has no touch, so dumping it off is a real challenge. He is hot and inaccurate on those kinds of passes.

When he goes to his safety valve (usually a running backing the flat) after his initial reads fail, that back is dependent on getting the ball delivered in a way that allows him to catch it in the simplest possible way so he can begin running, usually because someone is on him immediately. Often there are defenders nearby, so the quarterback may have to loft the ball a little to clear outstretched arms. Kapernick can do neither of these, so the ball arrives at the safety valve running back too hot to catch, or the ball is batted down by a defensive player. That's Kapernick the quarterback in a nutshell.

With all that said, I would take Tebow on my team, even as a special teams player or a tight end, if nothing else, because he has character. It really pained me to compare Tebow to Kapernick, but from a football skills perspective, he seemed the closest to me from a skills perspective, even if Kapernick was better in most respects, statistically speaking.

But Kapernick's Affirmative Action hiring, poisonous locker room personality, and intellectual stupidity, none of which apply to Tebow, who was a stand up guy by all accounts, make Kapernick far, FAR less desirable as a quarterback. Kapernick WAS given opportunities that Tebow never got, IMO, but...Tebow did get enough chances.

22 posted on 03/07/2024 5:46:23 AM PST by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: mewzilla
No offense, but I don't think you really know how the NFL makes money.

Most of its revenue comes from its television contracts and merchandise sales. And these revenues are split evenly among all 32 of the teams. So the Denver Broncos would make a ton of money even if every football fan in the state of Colorado stopped watching the Broncos on TV, tuned into 49ers games, and bought a new Patrick Mahomes jersey.

For individual teams, ticket revenue and stadium revenue is a big deal. I haven't seen any information to suggest that an NFL team would have generated more revenue with Tim Tebow as their starting QB than with any ordinary NFL quarterback. And keep in mind that the biggest revenue boost an NFL team can get is from hosting playoff games.

If you ever see a team keeping a troublesome player on its roster, it's based only on the expectation that the troublesome player gives them a better chance of winning than any alternative they can find.

At the same time the league continued and continues to have players on the payroll that were and are far less productive ...

Can you cite any of these -- particularly for quarterbacks?

23 posted on 03/07/2024 5:47:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: rlmorel
I don't think Kaepernick really got any "chances" in the NFL after he was cut from the 49ers. NFL coaches and GMs said one thing in public, but behind closed doors it was a very different story.

Apparently it has been common knowledge in NFL circles that Kaepernick had no interest in playing pro football after his career with the 49ers ended. He was smart enough to figure out that he had a more lucrative career as a professional malcontent than as a professional athlete.

24 posted on 03/07/2024 5:53:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Alberta's Child; mewzilla

The last two lines of your post were spot on-sub par receivers or running backs can play and scrape along for years, often playing special teams and such, but a flawed quarterback’s career looks very much like Tebow’s professional career...and they don’t have the luxury of playing on special teams, even though I have seen Tebow do just that.

Most career backup quarterbacks can make it into their low-thirties, but...that is rarer. Those types are players who fit into the general way quarterbacks play in the league, and can be plugged in to win every other game somewhat reliably until the starter is able to play again.

Quarterbacks who play Tebow’s and Kapernick’s style are even less desirable, because they can’t be “plugged” in the way someone like Brian Hoyer, a career backup (with a few forays into a starter) can be.

So their career is dependent on teams who play their style picking them up, and while there are more of them now than there used to be, up to now, if you weren’t a semi-competent fall back and pass quarterback, you had to hope one of the teams around the league that weren’t either. And you weren’t going to have a career like Brian Hoyer who could be plugged in as a good role quarterback in practice to help the team prepare, and did it well.


25 posted on 03/07/2024 6:04:24 AM PST by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: rlmorel

Like I said, we can settle this hash in an instant if someone would ask Mr. Tebow if he’s party to any NDAs involving the NFL.

I really hope I’m wrong, BTW.

I’d hate to think he took money to shut up and go away.


26 posted on 03/07/2024 6:06:21 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: MtnClimber

“But whoever shall offend one of these little ones who believe in me, it would be better for him that a millstone were hung around his neck and he were drowned in the sea.” Jesus, Lord of the universe.


27 posted on 03/07/2024 6:27:09 AM PST by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: mewzilla

Why would a former player — and a mediocre one at that — sign an NDA with the NFL? NFL players don’t even sign their player contracts with the NFL.


28 posted on 03/07/2024 6:32:04 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: rlmorel
Great post about backup QBs.

Who can forget the legendary Vince Evans, who was drafted by the Bears in 1977 and made a career as a backup QB? He played his final game for the Raiders in 1995 at the age of 40!

29 posted on 03/07/2024 6:41:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: Alberta's Child

I believe the only recent player to sign an NDA was Damar Hamlin of the Buffalo Bills. After having a cardiac arrest on the field.


30 posted on 03/07/2024 7:11:40 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: mewzilla

And in case I wasn’t clear-I like and admire Tim Tebow. I have heard people say his faith wasn’t genuine, he was expressing it as a form of virtue-signaling, blah blah blah.

I don’t buy it. He comes across to me as a devout Christian, and a gentleman to boot, in addition to be a well-conditioned, hard-working, team-oriented athlete.

I suspect that when he was pondering his future when he retired and asked himself what purpose God had in store for him, that he soberly concluded “It isn’t professional football. God has another path he has laid out for me to follow...” and he went from there.


31 posted on 03/07/2024 8:02:51 AM PST by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: woodbutcher1963

No mention here of how he would have made it as a tight end.

He’d make a good senator from Florida. Marco is up in ‘28.
He’d bring out the worst in the left. Think God. It would be like fingernails on a chalkboard.


32 posted on 03/07/2024 8:04:46 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: MtnClimber

“To sum it up, we strive to fight for people who can’t fight for themselves,” Tebow said.


If I shake you awake in the middle of the night and ask you why you fight, after you reach for your gun, what do you tell me?


33 posted on 03/07/2024 8:05:45 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: rlmorel
His issue was his football performance in the NFL while he was there. His skill set was simply not good enough.

He DID lead Denver to a playoff win. That's more than most of the starting NFL QBs can say.

34 posted on 03/07/2024 8:14:25 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Joe couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the 'C' and the 'A'.)
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To: MtnClimber
The former NFL star

Count me as a Tebow fan... However, I would have gone with College superstar or Heisman Trophy winner

35 posted on 03/07/2024 8:16:18 AM PST by goo goo g'joob (When honest people say what's true, calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful)
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To: MtnClimber

The democrats will do their usual outrage dance calling him EXTREME MAGA who hates “newcomers” and is a racist. Homophobe transphobe Islamophobia.


36 posted on 03/07/2024 8:18:39 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I was THERE for that game.

I don’t remember exactly the seat, but I got a ticket, and the best seat I could get was ALL the way up in the tip of the corner at Gillette Stadium.

The nighttime temp was about 20 degrees, with gusts up to an eye-watering 30-40 mph up where I was sitting up in the 318 section, because of the tunneling effect of the wind entering the stadium at the other end and exiting right where I was sitting, took the temperature down to below zero. (down on the field, it was cold, but they didn’t have the same wind where I was)

Now, I dress correctly. I had wool army style pants that had plastic sheeting in them to stop the wind, big warm boots, soviet-style fur hat, the whole nine yards, but...

Up there at the very tip of section 318, there was not a single human being within 20 yards of me up there!

I sat there for half the game to see if I could stand it, but when I saw people looking over at me with concern, I thought it might be time to move.

But New England did beat Tim Tebow that night by a wide margin, 45-10, so I got to see him that year.


37 posted on 03/07/2024 8:32:08 AM PST by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: beethovenfan

Exactly.

If these people do not repent, His judgment will fall on them like a ton of bricks.

The corruption of children is especially hateful to Him and is expressly singled out for an exceptionally severe judgment.

Matt 18:6 and Luke 17:2


38 posted on 03/07/2024 9:08:25 AM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all antisemites)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“No mention here of how he would have made it as a tight end”

I believe that is what the Pats/Belichik wanted to do with Tebow. However, Tebow wanted to play QB. So, the Pats released him. To the best of my knowledge(that is a legal expression) that is my recollection.


39 posted on 03/07/2024 9:09:17 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: rlmorel
I wish he could have ...I don't know...trained?...for another position.

As is painfully obvious from your post, he did put 'butts in the seats. LOL! (frozen butts lol)

40 posted on 03/07/2024 9:31:25 AM PST by spankalib
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