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How removing unauthorized immigrants from census statistics could affect House reapportionment
Pew Research Center ^ | JULY 24, 2020 | JEFFREY S. PASSEL

Posted on 03/11/2024 6:12:53 AM PDT by george76

Since the first census of the United States in 1790, counts that include both citizens and noncitizens have been used to apportion seats in the House of Representatives, with states gaining or losing based on population change over the previous decade. If unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. were removed from the 2020 census apportionment count – which the White House seeks to do – three states could each lose a seat they otherwise would have had and three others each could gain one, according to a Pew Research Center analysis based on government records.

If unauthorized immigrants were excluded from the apportionment count, California, Florida and Texas would each end up with one less congressional seat than they would have been awarded based on population change alone. California would lose two seats instead of one, Florida would gain one instead of two, and Texas would gain two instead of three, according to analysis based on projections of Census Bureau 2019 population estimates and the Center’s estimates of the unauthorized immigrant population.

Alabama, Minnesota and Ohio would each hold onto a seat that they would have lost if apportionment were based only on total population change. Alabama filed a lawsuit in 2018 seeking to block the Census Bureau from including unauthorized immigrants in its population count.

In addition to these states, 11 more would gain or lose seats based on population change alone, whether unauthorized immigrants are included or excluded. Five states would gain one seat each: Arizona, Colorado, Montana, North Carolina and Oregon. Six states would lose one seat each: Illinois, Michigan, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and West Virginia.

The apportionment of seats in Congress is required by the U.S. Constitution, which says that the census will be used to divide the House of Representatives “among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State,” except for enslaved people, who, until the late 1800s, were counted as three-fifths of a person, and certain American Indians. The 14th Amendment eliminated the partial count of enslaved people, and the total American Indian population was added later to congressional reapportionment calculations. The number of seats in the House was fixed at 435 following the 1910 census. Each state gets one seat, and the remainder are assigned according to a complex formula based on relative population size.

The census count includes everyone living in the United States, except for foreign tourists and business travelers in the country temporarily, according to Census Bureau rules. For apportionment purposes since 1990, military and civilian federal employees stationed abroad and their dependents are counted as living in a state if they provided a state address in their employment records. The District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and U.S. Island area populations are excluded from the apportionment total because they have no voting representation in Congress.

Federal law requires the population totals from the decennial census be delivered to the president nine months after Census Day, meaning Dec. 31, 2020. The Census Bureau has requested Congress extend the deadline to April 30, 2021, due to the coronavirus pandemic, although the White House reportedly may push for a “timely census” fueled by $1 billion in additional funding. States would redraw congressional district boundaries to fit the new totals. The results would take effect for the Congress that meets in 2023.

In his memorandum announcing a new policy “to the extent practicable” in how congressional seats are divided up, President Donald Trump asserted that the president has discretion to decide who is considered an inhabitant of the U.S. for apportionment purposes. Some of the same groups that successfully challenged the White House attempt to add a citizenship question to the census last year said they also would sue to block any change in apportionment policy. Democrats announced they would hold an emergency congressional hearing to respond.

The Census Bureau does not regularly publish counts or estimates of unauthorized immigrants, although the Department of Homeland Security has done so. Last year, after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled against including a question about citizenship on the 2020 census, the president ordered the Census Bureau to assemble a separate database, using other government records, on the citizenship status of every U.S. resident. This has also been challenged in court.

The Center’s analysis relies on assumptions about populations to be counted in the 2020 census and estimates of unauthorized immigrants. The actual figures used for apportionment will be different from these, and so the actual apportionment could differ regardless of whether unauthorized immigrants are excluded from the apportionment totals.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2020; aliens; apportionment; census; congress; reapportionment
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1 posted on 03/11/2024 6:12:53 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Remove illegals from the Census by deporting them.


2 posted on 03/11/2024 6:17:03 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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To: george76

https://twitter.com/BenBergquam/status/1767015466701119727

all saying they will vote for biden

THIS is why joe is being ran for pres

they love joe a d know no other name to love and vote for

the only other name they know is trump and they are taught to hate him


3 posted on 03/11/2024 6:19:23 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Vet, John Adams Descendant , deal with it.)
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To: george76

Gonna see the return of the 3/5 compromise?


4 posted on 03/11/2024 6:22:08 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople ( "Never thot I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones"-Johnny Rotten)
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To: george76

“...Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States
according to their respective numbers,
counting the whole number of persons in each State...”


5 posted on 03/11/2024 6:25:17 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: george76
"noncitizens have been used to apportion seats in the House of Representatives"

D.C. has become nothing more then a painful pustule on the backside of the American people.. Full of the foulest corruption that anyone could ever imagine..

The Good Lord needs to come and give that odious dunghill a good squeeze... :(

6 posted on 03/11/2024 6:27:34 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: Repeal The 17th

All hinges on the definition of who is legally a person.


7 posted on 03/11/2024 6:29:58 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: MuttTheHoople

Yankees didn’t want black men to count whole because that would have given the south more Representatives. Today, it’s different. They want count all of the illegals in the SW because illegals are what gives those states such huge numbers of Representatives. California for one.


8 posted on 03/11/2024 6:33:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: PAR35

“All hinges on the definition of who is legally a person.”

When the Constitution was ratified only landed taxpayers were ‘persons’. IOW one had to have ‘skin in the game’ before you could help decide what to do with the public’s money.

Maybe it is time to reconsider ...


9 posted on 03/11/2024 6:37:18 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: george76
"How removing unauthorized immigrants illegal aliens from census statistics could affect House reapportionment"

There. Fixed it.

10 posted on 03/11/2024 6:39:18 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: george76

This counting of noncitizens is a vestige of slavery. It should be abolished - count citizens only.


11 posted on 03/11/2024 6:40:07 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: ByteMercenary
only landed taxpayers were ‘persons

These days that might give most of the votes to the People's Liberation Army and other ChiCom landowners.

12 posted on 03/11/2024 6:44:27 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: MuttTheHoople

I propose we merely multiply the 3/5 by -1 and use that when counting illegal aliens.


13 posted on 03/11/2024 6:47:30 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: george76

Removing them? Too much at stake for redistricting so probably not gonna happen. Apparently head counts matter.....


14 posted on 03/11/2024 6:51:12 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: george76

Most American’s knowledge of history wouldn’t fill a thimble, myself included.

But, I appreciate what the Constitution was trying to accomplish. When this trite write-up talks about non-citizens, it is probably deliberately forgetting that America was and still is holding large numbers of native-Americans, who then were not US Citizens, I believe.

America also had several states which practiced human slavery and had large numbers of people who were never going to be allowed to vote.

If anyone was an “immigrant” they were probably here to stay, and weren’t shipping American wealth back home, either.

Overall, a stupid write-up. States losing representation deserve to lose it. America does not retain its population.


15 posted on 03/11/2024 6:51:48 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty ( )
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To: george76

We should push for this just as hard, if not harder, than the Left pushes for packing SCOTUS or eliminating the Electoral College.


16 posted on 03/11/2024 6:56:48 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: All

How did Rome fall?
By putting non-citizens in the Military.

Democrats now want to do the same thing here.


17 posted on 03/11/2024 7:02:03 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: george76
For years, FedGov pretended the influx of illegals held stable at 11 million. Post PedoJoe, he has added an acknowledged nearly 10 million. I suspect we have over 50 million here illegally and the progeny of those who have preproduced after arrival. 50 million is the equivalent to about 62 House seats, so their disbursed affect is vast. Even 20 million illegals = 25 direct House seats.

It makes sense that we would require extra bodies as we have extinguished over 60 million Americans through abortions over the last 50 years.

18 posted on 03/11/2024 7:03:14 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Liz

Bracken

https://gab.com/Matt_Bracken/posts/112077246456670844


19 posted on 03/11/2024 7:04:11 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Uncle Miltie
unauthorized immigrants

illegal aliens

NEWCOMERS, dang'it!

20 posted on 03/11/2024 7:13:53 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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