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When Canada’s Supreme Court decided that euthanasia was an acceptable solution, I wonder if they realized how many people they would be condemning to an earlier death with such a decision?

Now we just need to wait and see what the medical boards and experts determine is a ‘reasonable’ amount of time for people to be eligible for treatment… Living for 3 more weeks? 3 more months? 3 more years? Hmm… They’re the experts, I guess we’ll need to rely on their judgement.

1 posted on 03/11/2024 11:08:02 AM PDT by jerod
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I have faith in Big Pharma that they will not allow doctors to interfere with their revenue stream.


2 posted on 03/11/2024 11:10:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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NEVER, EVER, EVER let gov't meddle in, much less commandeer, YOUR HEALTHCARE!!!
3 posted on 03/11/2024 11:11:19 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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Do patients get to decide?


4 posted on 03/11/2024 11:14:58 AM PDT by stanne
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I think you are totally off base equating a patient’s refusal of end-stage cancer treatment with euthanasia.


5 posted on 03/11/2024 11:16:04 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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sometimes, it’s time...


6 posted on 03/11/2024 11:21:55 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Cancer is caused by radiation and poisons

the medical system exposes us to overdoses of radiation and various poisons renamed as "medicine"

no worries the Apothecary Industry ( AKA Big Pharma ) will supply the geniuses with degrees in medicine with a cure (more poison) to "practice" on us with, totally unfettered by price controls or flat rates or any level of morality

the medical system is allowed by our government to steal our money, they can charge whatever they want with no regulation, $5,000 an hour is not uncommon for prescribing poisons

7 posted on 03/11/2024 11:22:27 AM PDT by KTM rider (my thinking has made a major paradigm shift since 2020, I no longer know what to believe )
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Generally speaking no. Unless there’s some event they’re really trying to hang on for. Spending a month puking your guts out to live 2 more weeks really isn’t that great. Most oncologists won’t seek treatment if diagnosed with stage 4, heck a lot won’t even do it diagnosed with stage 3. They know the math.


9 posted on 03/11/2024 11:27:14 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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This is the flip side of abortion.

Once society accepts killing a child for the sake of "economic convenience", the sick and elderly inevitably follow.

The right to life is inalienable and thus non-negotiable, and arguments to the contrary are by definition antithetical to our Constitution and Founding.

10 posted on 03/11/2024 11:27:48 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (The history of the present Federal Government is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations ...)
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My Grandma lived to be 98. That last year was really rough. Constant respiratory and cardiac issues, her kidneys. In the hospital more often that out, until it was just the hospital. The doctors always discussing the next treatment. I was in the room when my Dad was chatting with her about treatments and I just remember her saying “I’m tired. Al’s waiting.” (Her husband that passed 20 years earlier.)

At some point you’re done. When that is, I guess it’s between you and God. I don’t think Grandma quit. She just came to terms that it was time. That time might be 98, might be 58 if those are your cards. The younger someone is the more we seem to judge, even though their outlook perhaps is none the better.


12 posted on 03/11/2024 11:29:17 AM PDT by BBQToadRibs2
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The goal of what they call "common-sense oncology" is to prioritize treatments that meaningfully improve survival and quality of life.

“Common-sense” has certainly turned into one of the most reliable indicators of anti-human Leftist philosophies.

Common-sense gun control
Common-sense voting rights
Common-sense health care
Common-sense taxes
Common-sense spending…

“Common-sense” = give up your rights, and all that you’ve earned. And, if necessary, your life…
14 posted on 03/11/2024 11:31:36 AM PDT by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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Worth reading:

https://spryliving.com/articles/when-doctors-get-cancer/


15 posted on 03/11/2024 11:34:29 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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It is insanity to blow your lifesavings on treatments that will only extend you life by weeks and you will be absolutely miserable the entire time.


16 posted on 03/11/2024 11:35:46 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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My money, my body, my values.

The Doctor is there to “advise,” and spell out (((ALL))) the options with their possible benefits and drawbacks.

***If he thinks it’s his job to push some philosophy, some cost benefit analysis according to his ideas, then he’s in the wrong profession, or in a country with a socialized health care system.***

I would not want this turd touching me or my family.


17 posted on 03/11/2024 11:35:58 AM PDT by Red6
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My very limited experience with oncologists is that they are really bad at having end-of-life discussions with terminal patients. I had two friends that died of cancer. Both of them were never told a definite number of how much time they had left. They were both female and both were Stage 4 when diagnosed. Both died around 4 months after diagnosis. It was like the doctors were too chicken to tell them they were terminal. One NEVER got a time estimate from the doctor, and the other was told that “it could be 5 days or 15 years.”


23 posted on 03/11/2024 11:42:03 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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Common sense.

There’s that expression again. It turns up with the Left’s death cult more and more…


26 posted on 03/11/2024 11:45:54 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left )
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cancer drugs AND euthanasia are works of the enemy. The healing power of Jesus Christ, our Great Physician, drives out sickness and disease. This is an equally important part of what Jesus did for us on Calvary; he saved us AND healed us.

Believe the power to heal is yours and it will be.


29 posted on 03/11/2024 11:54:06 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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"Now we just need to wait and see what the medical boards and experts determine is a ‘reasonable’ amount of time for people to be eligible for treatment."

Well, "death panels" exist for all insurance coverage in America. Medical necessity review. Local coverage determinations. Evidenced based best practices. Oh, don't forget financial decisions forced by deductibles and copays.

31 posted on 03/11/2024 11:56:12 AM PDT by buckalfa (Gut feelings are your guardian angels)
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Oncology joke

Q”Why do they put nails in coffins?”
A”Keep the Oncologists out”

Seriously, they will give patient Chemo for a estimated 1 week in increased life expectancy with 16 month life expectancy disease. It’s a significant increased life that they advertise for the patient, but neglect to measure that they are sick from the chemo for 16 months, and that it adds only about 1 week. This is real and I have witnessed this scenario before many times. Chemo infusion is big business, and people always grasp at the end. I am not supporting Euthanasia, but people need to know the truth about what they are choosing for treatment options explained so they can understand.


33 posted on 03/11/2024 11:57:49 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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In general, life should always be valued and saved as a primary goal.
There are too many factors to make a blanket judgement on every end of life circumstance, but yes, I believe life should be treasured and saved in general.


35 posted on 03/11/2024 12:08:31 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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Many treatments serve not to prolong life, but to prolong death.


37 posted on 03/11/2024 12:31:16 PM PDT by zeebee
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