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The brutal reality of plunging office values is here.
Cairns New York Business ^ | 2/20/24 | Natalie Wong and Patrick Clark

Posted on 03/24/2024 6:30:09 AM PDT by Lockbox

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To: know.your.why
So somebody please explain to me why my rent for my apartment went up over 50% this year.

Up to ten million new “Americans” from south of the border and limited new apartment construction due to high interest rates.

21 posted on 03/24/2024 6:51:28 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: ealgeone

Plus you recoup on the commute time.


22 posted on 03/24/2024 6:52:24 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: Lockbox
Oh, before the pandemic my company was inching its way to WFH. Depended on the department.

I was preparing a ppt on why it was beneficial to WFH. Compared my area to where headquarters was.

Plus, showed how spread out across the country the team really was and that all the yak-yak about being in office really meant nothing.

23 posted on 03/24/2024 6:56:47 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: know.your.why

Congressional spending creates new dollars.

Since the BRICS people are starting to deal in their local currencies, we can no longer hide the spending in overseas deals and purchases, so inflation shows up here immediately.

That and Biden deliberately destroying both our oil and much of our supply chains.


24 posted on 03/24/2024 6:57:41 AM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: EEGator

Exactly. And who needs the high taxes, liability, capriciousness and general governmental dysfunction associated with the big cities?


25 posted on 03/24/2024 7:01:30 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: hardspunned

I don’t want to house illegals and drug addicts.

I want their lives to be as miserable as we can possibly (legally) make them, in order to motivate correct behavior.


26 posted on 03/24/2024 7:01:54 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: EEGator
Remote work isn’t going away.
Neither is crime and inflation.

You nailed it.

In our economic and social system, nothing is immune, big or small. Think of all the things that have gone the way of the dodo bird (random list)....
-local drug stores
-the landline phone
-pay telephones
-local hardware stores
-the IBM Selectrect typewriter
-the IBM mainframe
-countries
-churches
-inner cities (now, the hood)
-passenger trains

....and so many, many more.

Nothing is immune, and it will not stop. In fact, it will likely accelerate (i.e., AI). No matter how big, prolific, or small, it can disappear—sometimes quickly and sometimes slowly (including us).

27 posted on 03/24/2024 7:02:24 AM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: Lockbox
Something's not adding up. People are not that much more efficient when it comes to remote work.

AI is going to become huge. So it's going to be real easy to lay off remote workers?

28 posted on 03/24/2024 7:05:42 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: EEGator

“This unwinding will be interesting to watch.”

*************

The only question is what will trigger the coming economic collapse? Its a sinkhole waiting to happen.

Will it be CRE, persistent inflation, shrinkage of discretionary income, or some external event?

And one wonders how can this government avoid further downgrades by the ratings agencies?


29 posted on 03/24/2024 7:07:33 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Lockbox

Doubt it. The taxes will be doubled at least to compensate for the lost tax base. 10% would be the floor.


30 posted on 03/24/2024 7:10:25 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: mo

Venice is the new model. Cities as mere tourist attractions where nobody actually lives there.


31 posted on 03/24/2024 7:12:34 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Brandon's pronouns: Xi/Hur)
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To: hinckley buzzard

The cratering is only temporary.

Like Nero letting Rome burn to clear the way for his palace.


32 posted on 03/24/2024 7:13:38 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: Starboard

I thought it would have already caused a collapse.
I have learned that I have no eye for timing.

It has also been pointed out to me, whether true or not, that the reason we are still okay is because everywhere else is worse.

I don’t see how that’s good long term.


33 posted on 03/24/2024 7:15:46 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: MinorityRepublican
AI is going to become huge. So it's going to be real easy to lay off remote workers?

There was a book published 10 years or so called "Bullshit Jobs". It pointed out that a huge percentage of modern jobs are just boring, repetitive work, done in cubicles, for no reason which is truly crucial for a company's survival.

Jobs in transportation, banking, insurance, law, advertising, politics (!), and lots more are often like this. People tapping on keyboards to create documents and ledgers and charts which no one really looks at or needs. You can be in the office, you can be remote. Doesn't matter. Because this type of work really doesn't matter. But millions of people are employed, doing this work that doesn't matter.

And AI can do it better, faster, cheaper. It's boring, mindless, repetitive work.

I think the number of eventual layoffs is going to be huge. Within the next 5 years.

34 posted on 03/24/2024 7:19:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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I think the number of eventual layoffs is going to be huge. Within the next 5 years.

Seems like the corporations are getting prepared for that day. And some quality workers will get replaced too. We're not going to need code monkeys when AI can do it for you.

35 posted on 03/24/2024 7:24:08 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ClearCase_guy

If so, get ready for UBI.

I do think at least 30% of corporate jobs are useless. Likely higher.


36 posted on 03/24/2024 7:25:34 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Uncle Miltie

Um, that hasn’t worked. I take it you’re not stepping over or weaving through them to get to your car in the morning. I hate to tell you but the big blue crap hole American city powers that be will ensure there’s more on the way.


37 posted on 03/24/2024 7:31:03 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: know.your.why

Easy! Because you are one of a dwindling number paying for all the rest of the bums who are NOT paying.


38 posted on 03/24/2024 7:46:32 AM PDT by battletank
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To: hinckley buzzard

Some people say that they could turn these unneeded Office Buildings into Condominiums and apartments.

But then other people say it’s way too costly to retrofit buildings intended to be offices and convert them to residential use.

So who knows what the future holds ,if we will see office buildings that are half empty for the foreseeable future.


39 posted on 03/24/2024 7:47:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HYPOCRACY

I’ve heard that about Venice. I’ve heard how most people who work in Venice live on the mainland and not in Venice.

And, that big numbers of people who work in Venice have jobs there because of the tourist industry in Venice.


40 posted on 03/24/2024 7:59:40 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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