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Why we keep trying to reject gun culture; Discouraged as we may be by our failure to stop gun violence, we need to keep trying. The alternative is far worse. (Mega barf alert)
Waging Non Violence ^ | March 25, 2024 | Robert C. Steiner

Posted on 03/25/2024 7:45:39 PM PDT by DoodleBob

For over 30 years, I have been frustrated by the inevitable destruction our gun culture imposes on American life. As a state senator in Utah in the 1990s, I promoted carefully modest gun safety bills. As an ordinary contributor to Brady, Giffords, Everytown, and other gun responsibility organizations, or just as another person expressing my opinion, lost in the vastness of our media universe, the disorder of gun violence calls out for my attention as a citizen. As it is for everyone, this call is more immediate for me after a mass shooting of children, but it is always there. It is my conscience, I suppose.

The starting point for me is the falsehood, the false pretense of our gun culture. The right to carry a gun, and the claim to a right to exert that power, must not be the highest right in our land — one which comes ahead of the rest. This bothers me, that I have to confront this falsehood. I really don’t like us avoiding the truth and giving obeisance to the falsehood. We have to keep a few things, which we know to be true, in front of us and give them their due. Here are some.

First, guns are machines designed to kill. Most of the weapons sold today are not designed for hunting or target practice; they are built to kill people. There may perhaps be a proper place for these weapons, in armies or in police forces, but certainly not among the general public. For the general public inevitably includes people who are invisibly unstable and easy prey to acts of hatred or anger.

Second, our gun culture exalts guns over life. We refuse to control guns even though they are the essential instruments in the murders of children and grown-ups time and again. If we say we obey God’s will, and we believe that God wants children to live a full life, and yet we distribute everywhere the ready means to kill children, then this is idolatry. In fact we do not worship God; we worship the gun.

Third, the Second Amendment has proven to be a great obstacle to placing God’s will first, ahead of guns. It is possible to imagine unreasonable restrictions on guns, but the Second Amendment is used to thwart commonsense restrictions intended to keep more people alive.

Fourth, our gun culture should not be so proud of the Second Amendment anyway. The Second Amendment was designed to preserve the institution of slavery. The Bill of Rights, including the Second Amendment, was necessary to secure the ratification of the Constitution. The Southern states felt they needed the right to have militias to suppress slave uprisings. They did not trust the national government to protect slavery for them. Thus the Second Amendment is inextricably linked to the original sin of our nation’s founding, and to me that diminishes its place of honor as a part of the Bill of Rights. We should not be afraid to say so.

Fifth, political forces use the falsehood of the gun culture to stay in power. They are aided by gun manufacturers, lobbyists, and the culture warriors who abide in the gun mythos. These are formidable forces.

Sixth, Christian Nationalism, with its strong support for the Second Amendment, originates in white supremacy. Its supporters’ identification of Christianity with the use of guns defames the name of Christ. Just as the exaltation of guns is idolatry, so identifying gun rights with Christianity is taking the Lord’s name in vain.

Finally, we are desperate enough now to recognize that we cannot overcome this power on our own. I think that we must more often say out loud that our undue protection of gun rights is itself modern idolatry; that it is disordered and wrong. I think our faith leaders can raise awareness that exalting gun rights is wrong and needs correction. We need help from above.

I think we keep trying to require background checks, limit high capacity automatic weapons, require training, ban bump stocks, and so on, because we are drawn to truth and we want to honor it and challenge falsehood. This is stark. It is clear. It is to reject the gun culture with its roots in white supremacy and its opposition to the values of both testaments. So, occasionally discouraged as we may be, we need to keep trying. The alternative is to let the great falsehood triumph.


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I don’t recall ever seeing so many errors and/or lies per sentence.
1 posted on 03/25/2024 7:45:39 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

I can think of worst societies than one with guns. Ones without are just sitting ducks at what befalls them.


2 posted on 03/25/2024 7:46:27 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Do you know why I'm always right? It's because I know everything. )
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To: DoodleBob

😠😖🤢🤮


3 posted on 03/25/2024 7:50:05 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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😠😖🤢🤮


4 posted on 03/25/2024 7:50:06 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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"Christian Nationalism, with its strong support for the Second Amendment, originates in white supremacy. Its supporters’ identification of Christianity with the use of guns defames the name of Christ."

I wonder what Bible he is reading. Or where he gets any of his facts outside of a liberal bath house or communist meeting hall.
5 posted on 03/25/2024 7:55:45 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Pardon my language but this is ejaculated nonsense or in other words political propaganda with a Christian coating.


6 posted on 03/25/2024 7:56:42 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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And yet the fact remains that the worst gun violence is carried out in "gun free" zones in cities with strict gun laws generally run by liberal pukes sharing the same sentiment as this author.


7 posted on 03/25/2024 7:57:38 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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In the land of the unarmed, the man with a Daisy Red Ryder is king.


8 posted on 03/25/2024 7:58:34 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year or 6,849 every day. Most often, the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminal’s) is shed.

Source: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/7.1/Gun-Facts-7.1-screen.pdf, page 21.

There will be 2.5 million additional crimes every year if you disarm the law-abiding.


9 posted on 03/25/2024 8:01:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████s████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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start executing thugs wi guns and see how long it takes...


10 posted on 03/25/2024 8:01:02 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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The starting point for me is the falsehood, the false pretense of our gun culture. The right to carry a gun, and the claim to a right to exert that power, must not be the highest right in our land

I disagree ... The right to life is the highest right, and the right to defend life is inherent in it. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is an inherent, inescapable part of the highest of rights.

11 posted on 03/25/2024 8:02:50 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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I don’t recall ever seeing so many errors and/or lies per sentence.

It must take a lifetime to learn how to do that.

12 posted on 03/25/2024 8:04:52 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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1. None of them want to look at nations that tried Marxism

2. None of them want to look at nations who banned guns

Those two factoids tell you everything you need to know about
these uninformed fools


13 posted on 03/25/2024 8:26:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Jonty30

When I was in high school, I bought a .22 rifle and a box of ammo at a hardware store. No one thought that was a bad thing.

I still have the rifle.


14 posted on 03/25/2024 8:29:36 PM PDT by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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“The alternative is to let the great falsehood triumph.”

everything he says is the great falsehood.


15 posted on 03/25/2024 8:32:43 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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Hey Robert....🖕. 100,000 ODs last year and ARs are the problem?


16 posted on 03/25/2024 8:34:26 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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Big surprise that this guy is a Trump hater. And writes his article with the open agenda to disarming whites.

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/12/22/robert-c-steiner-senators/


17 posted on 03/25/2024 8:38:54 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Dear Bob,

It is the GODLESS/LAWLESS culture destroying our country!!!

NOT the law abiding gun owners focused on self-defense, sport shooting, and hunting.

Put the gang bangers, thugs, and thieves in prison, and stop policies designed to destroy the nuclear family.

18 posted on 03/25/2024 8:46:08 PM PDT by G Larry (It's RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL immigrants and minorities by importing ILLEGAL Laborers)
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To: DoodleBob

The shocking thing is that the people of Utah elected this jackwagon and fed his unsupportable sense of self importance.

People like this should be ignored and at best scoffed at when they seek attention.


19 posted on 03/25/2024 8:50:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: DoodleBob

Did this whining liberal ever clearly define what “the gun culture” meant?

Or was it just his fear ofsomething?


20 posted on 03/25/2024 8:55:17 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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