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CCP’s Military Growth 'Largely Funded' By US: Ret. Navy Capt.
Epoch Times ^ | 03/25/2024 | Dorothy Li and Jan Jekielek

Posted on 03/25/2024 9:49:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Chinese Communist Party has aggressively built up its military, expanding its arsenal of both conventional and nuclear capabilities. The growth was largely funded by its rival, the United States.

That is one of the arguments made by James Fanell, a retired U.S. Navy captain, and Bradley Thayer, a senior fellow at the Center for Security Policy, a Washington-based think tank, during a recent interview with EpochTV’s “American Though Leaders“ program.

“The Chinese Navy now is over 150 naval combatants greater than the U.S. Navy. They are now the largest navy in terms of numbers of hulls and tonnage,” said Mr. Fanell, also a former Director of Intelligence and Information Operations for the U.S. Pacific Fleet. “Over the last decade, they’ve produced more tonnage and battle force missiles. The Chinese have more anti-ship cruise, longer-range, supersonic missiles.”

“In just that one area of the navy, they’ve gone from being an inferior, coastal, brown water navy … to being a global navy.”

The naval forces’ development, according to Mr. Thayer, is “largely funded” by the United States.

“We did that. Wall Street and our investors gave them the money to grow their economy and to build the weapons to kill us,” he said.

But it’s not just happening with the Chinese navy. “Every aspect of its military growth, economic growth, diplomatic growth, science, technology, lunar exploration, and space exploration that we are witnessing is due to the Americans,” said Mr. Thayer, a contributor to The Epoch Times. “Its peer enemy funded it and allowed it to grow.”

To prevent the regime from rising, “the first rule of strategy is don’t assist your enemy,” said Mr. Thayer, co-author of the new book, “Embracing Communist China: America’s Greatest Strategic Failure.”

“Of course, we violated that time and time again.”

‘Imminent’ Threat’

The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leader Xi Jinping has said the country’s armed forces will be brought to a “world-class” standard, capable of “fighting and winning wars” by mid-century, fueling concerns about a potential war with Taiwan and the United States.

Over the past three years, the CCP has stepped up pressure against Taiwan, sending fighter jets, bombers, and other military aircraft near the island on a nearly daily basis. U.S. military officials, lawmakers, and intelligence officers have suggested that the CCP is close to being ready for an invasion or blockable of Taiwan, a self-ruled island Beijing claims as its own territory.

The effects of a potential conflict would not be limited to Taiwan and its 23 million people, according to Mr. Fanell. The U.S. sailors, soldiers, marines, and airmen stationed over there would suffer too.

“They will be in the frag pattern if China decides to invade Taiwan,” he said, describing the threat from China as “imminent,” “real,” and “credible.”

Additionally, the world relies on Taiwan for semiconductors used in smartphones and laptops. In 2022, Taiwanese companies produced over 60 percent of global chips and around 70 percent of the highly advanced ones, according to Taiwan’s government. All of the chips under seven nanometers were manufactured by one company, the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corporation.

If China takes over Taiwan, its chip factories could end up being controlled by the communist regime.

For people living on U.S. soil, “what does that mean to them when Taiwan falls and now all of a sudden computer chips and all that technology is in the hands of the Chinese Communist Party?” Mr. Fanell asked.

Were communist China to seize its democratic neighbor, another thing could happen to the U.S. economy: the CCP could interfere with the $5 trillion worth of global goods transiting through the South China Sea, he suggested.

“The Chinese will say, ‘We control who can come through because we’re the masters of the universe. If you’re not obeying us, your stuff cannot come through.

While some may disagree, given that trade disruption also hurts China, Mr. Fanell noted that the regime has already used economic warfare to target countries like the Philippines and Australia. Norway also saw China freeze trade talks and impose a series of unofficial restrictions on Osclo’s fish exports in 2010 when the Norwegian Nobel Committee announced its decision to award the Nobel Peace Prize to an imprisoned Chinese dissident, Liu Xiaobao.

According to an estimate by CMI, a Noraway-based think tank, direct Norwegian fish exports to China were reduced by at least $125 million from 2010 to 2013.

“It doesn’t matter who it is or where it is. They will use economic warfare like a Navy ship would use a gun. They use it that way,” Mr. Fanell said.

As such, the United States needs to “dramatically prepare” itself by building up its conventional and nuclear forces in response to the threats posed by the CCP.

Nuclear Munitions

Mr. Fanell said America was the world’s top shipbuilder in the 1940s. In the past 80 years, however, U.S. shipbuilding accounted for less than 1 percent of the global share, according to United Nations data. In comparison, China produced 46 percent of the world’s commercial vessels in 2022, taking the number-one slot in terms of shipbuilding.

We are in a mismatch in the ability to ramp up our military capabilities with the production of weaponry that we haven’t seen since before World War II.”

The preparation takes time, but the threat from China is imminent. Mr. Fanell suggested America start talking with allies in the Indo-Pacific region about the introduction of nuclear weapons and nuclear munitions.

“No one wants to use nuclear munitions. But in order to be able to have a deterrent effect on Xi and the Chinese Communist Party, we need to make them go back to their drawing board, go back to their comprehensive national power seminars and calculations, [and] say, ‘We didn’t think the Americans would do this. What are we going to do, and how do we have to adjust or delay our actions?’” said Mr. Fanell.

Over the past three years, China built 350 silos for intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM) in the central and western regions. According to Mr. Fanell’s assessment, these warheads are “very capable and operational.”

We need to do what’s required to defend ourselves and our allies,” he said.

“Deterrence force is necessary to ensure that the Chinese cannot inflict total control over us and to do what they...want to do, which is to basically obliterate the American way of life.”

Despite the Chinese military’s buildup, Mr. Thayer remains confident in America, saying the country has great ideological strengths over the communist regime.

“Freedom is superior to tyranny,” Mr. Thayer said. Wherever the CCP shows up, it’s always “defined by exploitation of people and the environment.” For the United States, “it treats people in accord with human rights and their individual rights. That always makes us a better ally. ”

“We have great strengths, and they have great weaknesses. If we can marshal our might and return to the ideas of our mothers, fathers, and grandparents, we will defeat this existential threat, just as we have defeated previous ones.”


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1 posted on 03/25/2024 9:49:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Saw this coming 30 years ago, when I stated the USA’s youth
would have to be called out to sacrifice their lives due
to what Congress was doing.

It won’t be long > IMO.


2 posted on 03/25/2024 9:58:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Is this "traitor" suggesting that free markets are no good?

Is he implying that we should have kept our manufacturing base in the U.S.?

Horrors!

3 posted on 03/25/2024 10:26:12 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?action )
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To: SeekAndFind
Mr. Thayer remains confident in America, saying the country has great ideological strengths over the communist regime.

I'm not so sure about this. The US has been in ideological freefall the past ten years. For example, the United States thinks feminists should run its military.

China is ruled by a one-pary state, which sucks for the Chinese, but its government actually intervenes less in the economy than in the US:

China is a country with a low to moderate government spending ratio. Total government expenditure amounted to around 33 percent of the GDP in 2022, while this amounted to nearly 39 percent in the United States.

Government finances in China - statistics & facts
https://www.statista.com/topics/11499/government-finances-in-china/#:~:text=China%20is%20a%20country%20with,percent%20in%20the%20United%20States.

4 posted on 03/25/2024 11:06:27 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: SeekAndFind

Selling is the rope to hang ourselves. I believe it.


5 posted on 03/25/2024 11:08:03 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: SeekAndFind

“The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.”
― Vladimir Ilich Lenin


6 posted on 03/25/2024 11:11:40 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somewhere I read that 90% of the Chinese navy can’t....or won’t....travel more than 400 miles from it’s coastline.

Don’t know if that’s true, but all the crap we have in the U.S. that says “Made in China” makes it all possible.


7 posted on 03/25/2024 11:16:16 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Disband and Defund the putrid FBI. America does not need an out of control Gestapo)
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To: SeekAndFind

USA administration also funds, enables the Moslem terrorist murder gangs Hamas PLO-Fatah and (via the Lebanese government they effectively control) Hezballah. USA administration also sends money to the Iranian dictators.

Funding sworn enemies of USA is not a Success Policy for USA


8 posted on 03/26/2024 12:03:35 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump had a solution in 2016. A 20-30% tariff on Chinese goods would have put a lid on their economy and brought a lot of manufacturing back. Especially if we put a lid on the EPA.


9 posted on 03/26/2024 1:45:30 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
That’s a pack of lies. Government is involved in all aspects of Red China’s economy. Every so-called private company of theirs is actually government-owned.
10 posted on 03/26/2024 1:59:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai
That’s a pack of lies...Every so-called private company of theirs is actually government-owned.

Private capital in modern China is immense. China has four million factories and almost all are privately or share-holder owned. You don't understand what happened in China after the Cultural Revolution. China's great economic expansion occurred after the government divested from manufacturing and transitioned to private enterprise (they copied Japan's post-war economic model). You still think Mao is running the country. Please, try and keep up.

11 posted on 03/26/2024 2:26:34 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Some well-known Conservatives have long argued for ‘free trade’ using defective logic.

I’ve never heard/read a mea culpa.


12 posted on 03/26/2024 5:26:29 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
There is no “private capital” in Red China that is not at the Party’s disposal.

I presume you have never read The Principles of Communism? Ostensibly “private” capital is a means to an end:
In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity. …
That was the impetus behind Lenin’s New Economic Policy, the systems of fascism and national socialism, and Teng Hsiao-P’ing’s Special Economic Zones, ad nauseam. Khrushchev even talked about “many different paths to socialism”; take note that the goal was never deviated from.
13 posted on 03/26/2024 10:38:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

China was at the time stating it wanted to destroy the U.S. It still says that.

I am not now or ever was a supporter of financing a nation that wishes to
destroy the United States, and yet am sometimes called a traitor by those
who do.

Somehow I’ll find the strength weather such nonsense.


14 posted on 03/26/2024 12:23:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Right now we're robbing Peter to pay Paul in order to keep Ukraine and Israel stocked with enough weapons to fight on. Regardless of what side anyone is on with regards to either of these wars, this doesn't speak well for the West if we can no longer maintain the ability to keep up our defenses.

I remember during the W admin the goal was to be able to fight two major wars at the same time. It seems as if now we can't even support one proxy war at a time.

15 posted on 03/26/2024 12:28:33 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?action )
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

The United States is capable of defending itself. Our
leaders just don’t choose to do it. Our borders are open
with the same rules Trump put on the table, and removed
by Biden. We don’t need to increase that budget. Just
enforce border control. Biden refuses to. I am concerned
about what our priorities are these days with regard to the
military.

We need to retire about a third of our national debt over
the next ten years. We need to keep going with that until
we pay it all down.

This will take some of our deadbeats by surprise. Sorry, I’m
not moved by that. It’s time to get back to basics.

We need to fulfill our obligations, but we can and must do
better.

As for the Ukraine and Israel, the money we have spent on
them is deceiving. We keep our arms suppliers in business
so that we can always have a supply. Most of the aid is
spent in the U. S. We don’t just sent off mountains of cash.
I know some folks think so, but I don’t think it’s as big
a problem as some folks think. Of course any misdirection
of funds is wrong, and if we know if it happening, then we
need to stop it.

If we add up our support for the Ukraine and Israel over
the last two years, it’s an almost invisible sum compared
to our increase in debt. Our leaders spend like drunken
sailors, and we don’t know the half of it. All these
freebie programs Biden tosses out, it’s just mind boggling
how idiotic it is. Congress isn’t any help either.

You’re right about the two front readiness factor. In
fact, I was upset about Bush shrinking our two campaign
pledge to one unofficially, and them dumping it off to
Clinton who made it official.

McCain has his weasel fingers all over that. We came up
with an incredible aircraft the F-22, then cut the
production to one third. Our ship fleet is around 270
right now, while China has upped its game to around 350.

While I don’t believe we are in what I’d call serious
trouble yet, we are slipping. It’s time to get serious.


16 posted on 03/26/2024 8:19:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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