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Opinion: Biden and Trump know Kennedy’s VP choice is a game changer
The Hill ^ | Mar. 27, 2024 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 03/27/2024 10:19:43 AM PDT by libstripper

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To: ooker312

The vote is by state not member. The GOP could be down 235 to 200 and still control 26 states. Not democratic but Constitutional.


61 posted on 03/27/2024 11:25:02 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: albie

BEcause Biden has at least twice refused him protection. They should be advertising Biden’s pettiness and hate filled brain.


62 posted on 03/27/2024 11:28:58 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: HamiltonJay

Think you’re right about debate results, except I don’t think there will be any debates. Giving Joe enough Adderall will kill him.


63 posted on 03/27/2024 11:30:28 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: z3n
If RFKjr gets a couple of states,

The last third party candidate to win any electoral votes was George Wallace.

64 posted on 03/27/2024 11:30:33 AM PDT by goo goo g'joob (When honest people say what's true, calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful)
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To: ConservativeDude

“but this girl is a left wing loon”

a very rich left loon girl and half Chinese


65 posted on 03/27/2024 11:31:17 AM PDT by DOC44 ( )
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To: Alberta's Child

I don’t know if Ross Perot is an apples to apples comparison to RFJ Jr, except for the fact that they are 3rd party candidates, and 3rd party candidates always fail miserably in our two party racket.

Ross Perot had money, most of all, but he had a certain sort of charisma, in a cheeky old texas sort of way.
RFK Jr. has the family name, and though he isn’t overly charismatic, he has both the name and a gravitas, particularly with democrats.
OF course, the DNC is going to set out to destroy RFK Jr., simply because of how much a threat he is to them, but here’s the big wild card:

NOBODY LIKES BIDEN!

So 40% of the country HATES Trump, and much of that 40% plus the 30% that call themselves independents want an alternative to Biden because he is old, feeble, and embarrassing.
That’s a huge window.

So Trump has at least 40%+ locked. How much of the independents he can get will be the key, as well as making some inroads with Hispanics and black males.

If Biden has some really embarrassing public falling down moment, or if he locks up and craps the bed at a public speaking event, the door will swing wide open for RFK Jr. and it will turn into a delegate fight in congress. If they can do a Hidin’ Biden like they did in 2020, then it’s going to be a close race, and if RFK Jr. gets even 5% of the vote, it could swing several states Trump’s way without any delegate threats.

But the point is, I think RFK Jr. is a bigger threat than Ross Perot, and the democrats do to. They are already on the attack.


66 posted on 03/27/2024 11:37:35 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Midwesterner53

“Trump and Kennedy need to go on the air immediately with an ad pointing out the Kennedy family history of assassinations and that Biden is refusing to grant RFK Jr secret service protection. Paint him as spiteful and mean. I guarantee it would work.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

An excellent point, and a great way to drive a wedge between Biden’s bulls#it narrative and any Democrat with half a brain and any sense of history (granted, there aren’t many, but we only need 1%-2% in some key states).


67 posted on 03/27/2024 11:39:08 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: z3n

The Democrats aren’t attacking RFK because they’re afraid he will win any states. They’re attacking him because they know he can draw thousands of votes from Biden in key swing states. It’s that simple.


68 posted on 03/27/2024 11:40:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: jimwatx

“The only thing to worry about is if Kennedy gets enough of the vote preventing Trump from getting enough electoral votes and the election gets thrown into the House.”

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Kennedy won’t come anywhere close to winning any electoral votes. In the general, all states are winner take all. None are proportional.


69 posted on 03/27/2024 11:41:20 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: libstripper

Trump needs to empathize oil and guns. Things that divide Kennedy from the right and unites him with the left.


70 posted on 03/27/2024 11:42:30 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: Williams

It’s a lost art, like how they built the pyramids.


71 posted on 03/27/2024 11:44:16 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: libstripper

She’s simply not “Presidential Timber” to use Trump’s quote of the caliber of person that should be chosen for VP. Neither is Harris, of course. Trump needs to deliver a standout choice, and not a token, to separate himself in this regard.


72 posted on 03/27/2024 11:45:18 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (Principles, not partisanship)
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To: HonkyTonkMan

[Gamechanger? Nah. Kennedy forgot you don’t appoint a bundler to the VP role. Ambassadorship, Secretary, perhaps, but not VP.
He was never a serious candidate.]


Given the lady’s past, including a rumored fling with Musk while married to Brin, the guy may be going for fringe benefits. Problem is - she seems to only sleep with seriously wealthy guys.


73 posted on 03/27/2024 11:47:25 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: libstripper

Biden fears Kennedy more than he feared Bernie Sanders. But he had no problem deleting Sanders. Will he remove Kennedy as easily??


74 posted on 03/27/2024 11:50:45 AM PDT by elpadre
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To: libstripper

“former wife of Google cofounder Sergey Brin”

so she’s very deep state connected


75 posted on 03/27/2024 11:50:58 AM PDT by Wuli (ena)
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To: glorgau

The is great news, the left-winger is going to hurt the democrats.


76 posted on 03/27/2024 11:51:25 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ConservativeDude
Pretty sure an ex-spouse to Google founder isn’t going to help on the populist vote

And her core issues. Abortion, feminism, social justice, climate change. She is on the far left side of Populism, with politicians like Bernie Sanders, or groups like Occupy Wall Street. Trump's brand of Right Wing Populism is nearly a polar opposite of RFK Jr/Nicole Shanahan.

But there is a significant effort to sell them as a solid right wing choice vs Trump, as if conservatives can't discern the difference between Left Wing and Right Wing Populism. That effort is pretty clear right here on FR, with a vocal group of "conservative" freepers fawning over Kennedy.

77 posted on 03/27/2024 12:15:19 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: libstripper
What lying progaganda.

approximately 70 percent of voters indicate they do not want Biden or Trump as their next president.

This is a made-up statistic. Just Trump supporters alone make up more than 30% of the electorate.

Enter — stage middle — Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Middle? Rather, far left.

78 posted on 03/27/2024 12:19:06 PM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be destroyed.)
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To: Midwesterner53; All

Totally Agree!!!!


79 posted on 03/27/2024 12:33:13 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: HamiltonJay

Only 7 states still have strait party voting. Michigan and Nevada are probably the only 2 Biden would likely win, and could be effected by forcing voters to select individual candidates.

If RFK Jr can build enthusiasm, particularly in millennials, he could do to Biden what Perot did to HW Bush, though with a smaller share of the vote.


80 posted on 03/27/2024 12:40:14 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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