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Texas AG Demands DEI Documents as Part of Probe Into Boeing Supplier
https://www.yahoo.com ^ | March 29, 2024 | Dan Ladden-Hall

Posted on 03/29/2024 8:09:39 PM PDT by Enterprise

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To: noiseman

>And finally, there’s the scenario of a white applicant being more qualified than a black applicant.<

Actually, there is a final finally. There’s a scenario of a black applicant not being qualified and still being hired to provide diversity. Was there a previous requirement to possess an FAA Airframe and Powerplant Certificate?

EC


21 posted on 03/30/2024 3:54:23 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: PLMerite

Reid says if you are against DEI we know what you are, yeah a realist


22 posted on 03/30/2024 4:01:49 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: DoodleBob

Won’t flame you, but what makes you think Dem AGs and Garland aren’t already doing it?


23 posted on 03/30/2024 4:57:41 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: DoodleBob

There is no free market. There has never been a free market.

A company’s DEI compliance is required to gain contracts.
This is true in the utility industry. I would bet it’s true in aviation as well.


24 posted on 03/30/2024 5:35:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: noiseman

There is no cure for inequality. DEI attempts to transcend inequality


25 posted on 03/30/2024 5:47:48 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: Enterprise

Kudos, Paxton.


26 posted on 03/30/2024 6:29:15 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: trebb

I have no doubt the Dem AGs and Garland are harassing firms, too.

It’s still wrong.


27 posted on 03/30/2024 11:09:29 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Enterprise
Or how about WEF assholes who have told us over and over via their words and actions that WE AREN'T DYING FAST ENOUGH?


28 posted on 03/30/2024 12:43:43 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (TH)
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To: Dick Bachert

I was suspicious enough not to get the jab. So, I dodged them this time. They are ruthless and they might get me the next time regardless of my suspicions.


29 posted on 03/30/2024 12:54:04 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; jacknhoo; BobL; Enterprise; trebb; Fractal Trader; HollyB; Spktyr; ...

Thank you for your replies.

Here are a few thoughts in response:

1. We should follow Reagan. He didn’t become a commie and adopt collectivist techniques to defeat the Soviets. He followed the Gospel, I.e., Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves.

2. Surrender, abdication, or joining Billy Kristol and other traitors across Freedom, Inc. is also not an option. It’s a nice strawman, but no way to secure freedom.

3. I have no doubt that Dem AGs and Garland are harassing private enterprises with ridiculous documentation demands, too. They’re wrong. That doesn’t make it right for Paxton to act like a socialist AG; see #1.

4. Bidet and his Administration get beat up (rightly so) for ignoring the border. Paxton should focus his energy on that beam in his eye vs this splinter.

5. If Boeing can trace their problem to a supplier, they should seek redress via the courts. That makes it a private sector matter.

6. What is the legitimate role of the Administrative State in product liability? In theory, it is to ensure no laws were broken. DEI, at this point, isn’t illegal. It may be caustic and ponderous, but so is Springsteen and he’s still hasn’t been banned.

7. Almost as an aside, some of the data for which Paxton is asking is very likely unavailable, and he knows it if he’s a competent lawyer. In particular, private sector firms don’t track the sexual orientation of their employees in general - in fact it may be illegal to demand it (it’s ok to ask and it’s ok for the employee to say GFY). National origin may not be in all firms’ systems as well.

8. The rush to condemn DEI for every problem or accident is as stupid as blaming guns for crime. Parenthetically, we also look stupid when wrong on DEI (see Silicon Valley Bank) just like the left does every time the blame a MAGA gun nut that turns out to be a mentally ill Democrat.

9. DEI is a symptom, not a cause, of THE main problem, which is collectivism. Look at Uvalde…the cops got off with barely a slap on the wrist. Educators who groom children are protected by the union and administrators. Back in the day, bad eggs would be flushed out and strong individuals would be championed. Today, is nobody’s fault…”it’s the system.” And I’ve seen PLENTY of f-ups who look as white as me in life. Indeed, Pelosi, Schumer, Bidet, are cases in point. No rsce holds a monopoly on dumb and incompetent.

Thanks for listening,


30 posted on 03/30/2024 1:05:15 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: Antioch

31 posted on 03/30/2024 1:17:07 PM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: DoodleBob
I'm probably reasoning this as others have, but Paxton appears to be attempting to get some questions answered. For a time, Boeing didn't appear to have significant problems in the design and construction of its airlines. Then, for reasons unknown at this time, significant problems related to passenger safety suddenly arose. What Paxton wants answered is if there is a correlation between the implementation of DEI and the frightening problems facing Boeing now. In other words, in an effort to show progress in hiring on a DEI basis, did Boeing lower standards? Did Boeing deliberately discriminate against certified or qualified workers to hire unqualified workers? And, has this process made air travel dangerous?

If the process has endangered airline passengers, then one looks to negligent hiring. If that is found to be true, then the persons who authorized the hiring of unqualified workers are directly in line for being sued. There might also be an issue of negligent retention. If workers have been unqualified to do the work they were hired for, but did sloppy work but weren't fired, then negligent retention becomes an issue also. And once again, people who should have fired unqualified workers are in line to be sued.

Paxton doesn't need to get into gender issues. But as a matter of curiosity, if Boeing was proud of its progress in DEI, why would it now try to hide its racial makeup percentages if it touted them before?

But to me, it once again boils down to a couple of questions - were standards lowered? And did no one try to reinstate higher standards once the problems were discovered?

The airlines are obligated to answer these questions. The lives of airline passengers have been shown to be jeopardized on several occasions, and Paxton, and others, have a right to ask those questions, and the Boeing has a duty to answer them truthfully.

32 posted on 03/30/2024 5:34:47 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise
Thank you for your thoughtful reply

What Paxton wants answered is if there is a correlation between the implementation of DEI and the frightening problems facing Boeing now.

I don’t doubt that’s part of his intent.

However, Paxton’s request letter states that the inquiry is focused on acts or conduct that violate governing documents or Texas law.

DEI isn’t illegal as a business activity. It was banned in colleges in Texas but it is still a legal business practice.

Therefore, Paxton and the State of Texas has zero right delving into a legal activity.

Even if leftist AGs are harassing conservative employers, two wrongs doesn’t make a right. If the District of Columbia wanted all of Breitbart’s notes taken during interviews to see if THEY are NOT pursuing DEI, I’d say the same thing - pound sand.

It doesn’t matter what I think about DEI or if I think Spirit finds it cheaper to hire Epsilon Semi-Morons.

Now, if Spirit is covering up defective parts, colluding with Boeing to build a Lie/Party Line on the mishaps, or other criminal activities, that’s fair game. Indeed, based in many stories - here’s one https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/why-was-spirit-aerosystems-sued-lawsuit-explored-as-boeing-door-plug-supplier-repeatedly-warned-of-defects-before-alaska-airlines-incident/ar-AA1mPIf3 Spirit seems to have a number of ethical problems. Indeed, I’d rather Paxton go in that direction - that would be a legitimate exercise of state power. However, the inclusion In Paxton’s “Documents to be Produced” of items 7-11 makes me thing this is chiefly a Red Meat political maneuver.

The minute we champions of liberty and the Constitution and the Rule of Law throw all that overboard because we’re afraid the left is winning, is the minute we have become Legion.

Ome small, final note on Paxton. His lawsuit against Pfizer is stupid. He says it was misleading for Pfizer to claim its vaccine was 95% effective because it offered a "relative risk reduction" for people to who took it. Well, anyone with a search engine can tell the difference between Vaccine Efficacy and Relative Risk Reduction. The Covid shots are a big nasty saga, but I don’t need a lawyer in Texas to effectively say I’m too stupid to tell the difference and I need Leviathan to be my knight in shining armor. Fix the border.

33 posted on 03/30/2024 8:05:19 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: bert
There is no cure for inequality. DEI attempts to transcend inequality

Yep. In fact, unequal outcomes are a sign of a well-functioning free society. Freedom means that people are free to pursue their dreams, or not. They’re free to succeed, free to fail, and free to not try at all. Thus freedom will inevitably result in unequal outcomes. On the other hand, a society where everyone has generally the same outcomes is certain to be a society with no freedom (with the one caveat that such societies often have a corrupt, well-to-do elite at the top, with everyone else equally destitute).

If you want to see “equity”, go visit a prison. The inmates all lead identical lives day in and day out, but they have zero freedom.

34 posted on 03/30/2024 10:28:07 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: DoodleBob

I do see your point and I can see the possibility that DEI might not be the issue. The whole thing might come down to a criminal investigation into a supplier dealing in faulty or counterfeit parts. Let the investigation lead where it may. But, I think Paxton still should look into DEI and either prove that it might be partly responsible or exonerate it.


35 posted on 03/30/2024 11:05:08 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: DoodleBob

I don’t disagree with you - but the adages, “Fight fire with fire” was coined for a reason - when one side ignores the law and turns it into a weapon, those who allow themselves to be restrained by the law will die by the so-called law.


36 posted on 03/31/2024 4:14:34 AM PDT by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: DoodleBob
The Covid shots are a big nasty saga, but I don’t need a lawyer in Texas to effectively say I’m too stupid to tell the difference and I need Leviathan to be my knight in shining armor.

I think we do need some people in government to fight against govt vaccine mandates and corporate mandates supporting the same policies. When my son completed his service term in the US Marines, the airlines in Tokyo would not let him return to the US without another vax. What he wanted did not matter. The airlines might claim that they had good intentions, but that was simply wrong. I am not impressed that what they did was deemed "legal."

37 posted on 03/31/2024 4:50:25 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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