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1 posted on 04/02/2024 6:43:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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This guy accomplished his goal. He got his name in the national press (AP).


29 posted on 04/02/2024 7:02:17 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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This from a state that uses home heating oil and wood stoves to heat their homes.....What? Ben & Jerry bored these days?


30 posted on 04/02/2024 7:02:18 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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Climate The Movie (The Real Truth): Martin Durkin Official.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOAUsvVhgsU&list=FLLR0KZJRLxO4vVbc4-lAyjw&index=3&t=11s&ab_channel=ClimateTheMovie


31 posted on 04/02/2024 7:02:33 AM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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Vermont advances bill requiring fossil fuel companies pay for damage caused by climate change, as fossil fuel companies pull out of Vermont, leaving motorists without gas & oil, trucks without diesel, & homes without heating oil.

Gas stations all closed, heating oil companies go out of business. This is truly a big environmental wacko win!

EVs everywhere, except all the nat gas and coal plants shuttered, leaving only wind and solar to power the gird. Blackouts lasting weeks or months. Most EVs stranded.

Another Big WIN!!!!!


39 posted on 04/02/2024 7:17:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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The goose that lays the Golden eggs! Don’t have to prove any damage was actually caused by man’s co2, just claim it happened, arrest anyone that challenges the false claim, and then fine the snot out of every business around, and Ka-ching! Cash comes rolling in

“Global warming ruined my health” kKachina!

“Global warming ruined the paint on my house” ka-ching

“Global warming is causing people to get angry and lash out and hurt others” ka-ching!

Etc etc etc


41 posted on 04/02/2024 7:18:25 AM PDT by Bob434
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Why not punish the consumers who have used fossil fuels to keep their kids warm in the winter? It would be easy enough for politicians to levy a direct tax on past fossil fuel users and use the police to enforce collections.

Consumers will bear the brunt of punishing legislation either way.

I guess the important thing is to collect as much revenue as possible without the theft being laid directly at the feet of the politicians; preserve the illusion that those bad people over there are responsible.


43 posted on 04/02/2024 7:24:04 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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“We can place the burden on Vermont taxpayers or we can keep our fingers crossed that the federal government will help us or we can have fossil fuel companies pay their fair share,” he said.

Other than the usual climate change garbage, hard not to notice that overused indescribable undefinable word, "fair share".

47 posted on 04/02/2024 7:26:10 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Vermont used to be a nice place to vacation, back in the mid-60s. It’s since turned into a major dem shithole.


48 posted on 04/02/2024 7:36:48 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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Okay fine, now stop selling fuel in the state. I am sure that will make it all better for them.


54 posted on 04/02/2024 8:05:50 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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Thank you for referencing that article Oldeconomybuyer.

"Vermont advances bill requiring fossil fuel companies pay for damage caused by climate change [??? emphasis added]"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Just as “follow the global warming lawsuit money” California cities evidently thought it prudent to not bother prospective investors about their politically correct climate problems (my wording), Virginia is probably trying to follow the climate dollars too imo.

From 2018:

"But ExxonMobil's attorneys did some legwork and found something interesting in municipal bond offerings of many of the same cities and counties suing them. Those offerings include several examples of climate change threats being downplayed or even completely ignored." —Big Oil throws California’s climate change hypocrisy back in its face (1.11.2018)"

If Virginia is trying to find new revenues, it needs to team up with “secessionist” Texas to do so by doing the following. Texas and Verment need to lead ALL the states to effectively “secede” from the unconstitutionally big, tax-hungry federal government by repealing the 16th (16A; direct taxes) and 17th (17A; popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).

Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for victim taxpayers of the unconstitutionally big federal government for having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.


55 posted on 04/02/2024 8:09:42 AM PDT by Amendment10
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I guess I’ll be buying my fuel in New Hampshire soon.


56 posted on 04/02/2024 8:21:40 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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Say what? Delusional!


58 posted on 04/02/2024 8:45:15 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts (,,)
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Prove Climate Change.


59 posted on 04/02/2024 9:16:39 AM PDT by chopperk (s to )
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Just stop sending gas, diesel and heating oil to them. Let the learn first hand how important fossil fuel is.


60 posted on 04/02/2024 9:21:49 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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But shouldn't the fossil fuel companies also get paid for whatever benefits there are as a result of the global warming they supposedly caused?

Everybody in Vermont could pay the fossil fuel companies for each day that is warmer and they don't need as much energy to heat their houses, and any increase in farm production, because warmer days yield more hay and that means more milk from the dairy farms.

Same for the maple syrup industry, and the state of Vermont could pay the fossil fuel companies what would have been their savings on winter plowing and salting.

And as more people move to a warmer Vermont, the people who sell property should share their gains with the fossil fuel companies who improved the climate.

62 posted on 04/02/2024 10:30:34 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Whatever happened to “act of God”? That’s what insurance companies claim when a tree falls on your house, or lightning sets it on fire. Those are all weather-related damage.


63 posted on 04/02/2024 11:19:00 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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