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Covid Vax Deaths Surge in Republican-Voting States, Study Finds
SLAY News ^ | April 3, 2024 - 12:54 pm | Frank Bergman

Posted on 04/03/2024 1:07:24 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

The problem with statistics is that if you are not an honest statistician and have an agenda, you can make the statistics anything you want.


41 posted on 04/03/2024 3:00:49 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-oilfield roughneck-drilling fluids tech-geologist-pilot-instructor-pharmacist)
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To: teeman8r
but the majority of the people lining up for those toxic shots in republican led states were members of the Democratic party. oooo the irony. Tru dat!
42 posted on 04/03/2024 3:03:20 PM PDT by RainMan ((Democrats ... making war against America since April 12, 1861))
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To: vikingd00d; Red Badger; JSM_Liberty; VTenigma; God luvs America; ProtectOurFreedom; Sirius Lee; ...

Slay News is a sh***y website, and they should be shunned. I honestly believe they’re a leftist front designed to snare gullible “conservatives” and make us look stupid.

First, their link to the study doesn’t work. Does anyone edit or proofread over there? Here’s the link:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2816958

Second, Slay omits the study’s title:

“Reports of COVID-19 Vaccine Adverse Events in Predominantly Republican vs Democratic States” and “Question Is state political inclination associated with COVID-19 vaccine adverse event (AE) reporting?”

Why? Probably to get clicks.

In fact, the researchers conclude “ In finding that Republican-inclined states show higher COVID-19 AE reporting than Democrat-inclined states, this study suggests that Republicans are more likely to perceive or report those AEs and that Democrats are less likely to.”

In other words, JSM_Liberty is right: the researchers suggest Republicans are more likely to file an AE while Dems are less likely. That’s it.

Now, we can IMPLY all sorts of things from that statistical observation. Dems may choose politics over health with regard to VAERS. The Repubs are undaunted. And so on. Heck, put on the tin foil hat…after all, the difference between a conspiracy theory and fact is about 2 years.

But that should be reported as a theory or suggestion or tin foil…not a FACT.

relatedly…Third, at NO PLACE in this study are deaths revealed to be “surging.” Indeed, “ Adverse events were reported to the VAERS as severe if they threatened or caused death or led to emergency visits, hospitalizations, or disability.” If Slay had any reading comprehension skills, they’d see that deaths are lumped in with other things. Thus, even with a statistically significant odds ratio (there’s no way the geniuses at Slay could even BEGIN to explain that is basically a relative odds metric) it is IMPOSSIBLE to claim that the trend of deaths went up, or down, or stayed flat.

Slay makes Gateway Pundit look good, and GP sucks. I’ve seen less f-ed up reporting from NPR, and they’re the enemy. And we wind up looking like gullible rubes.


43 posted on 04/03/2024 3:19:11 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

I agree with you about the site. The Expose-News site from the UK IMO is similarly intended to slip a poison pill into legitimately problematic information.


44 posted on 04/03/2024 3:34:11 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DoodleBob

Thank you for verifying my hunch.


45 posted on 04/03/2024 3:54:32 PM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: Red Badger

That’s propaganda, why don’t they give verifiable numbers?


46 posted on 04/03/2024 3:59:04 PM PDT by californian by choice
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To: DoodleBob
The alt media world is huge and you have dozens, maybe hundreds of Alex Jones wannabes, just as 20 years ago, there were dozens of talk show hosts who wanted to be the next Rush Limbaugh. There is little cost in setting up a podcast, compared with radio or TV, and it then becomes a matter of getting eyes and/or ears to your podcast. If not begging for contributions, they usually promote precious metals, health food, or survival gear. This is not unusual; even barely conservative talkers like Hugh Hewitt rely on these advertisers. YouTube, Facebook, and the rest of the Big Tech players, except Twitter/X, have become irrelevant as the conservative world has moved on to alternate sites.

The bad guys are fully aware of these circumstances. Some of the wackier sites are likely plants to discredit the rest. Others are just sloppy. Many have forgotten how to communicate without using the "seven dirty words" that George Carlin talked about 50 years ago. In any case, planting flat earthers, Jew haters, and writers and podcasters who make outlandish statements without primary source references plasy into the hands of those who would prevent the sheeple from straying from the mainstream disinformation sources.

47 posted on 04/03/2024 4:00:38 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: glorgau

Why not just share where? I checked the site out, and unless I want to spend all night reading it your link is useless.


48 posted on 04/03/2024 5:13:04 PM PDT by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Red Badger

Targeting Repubs with the Vax vs Dems getting the placebo.


49 posted on 04/03/2024 5:17:19 PM PDT by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: Jonny7797

The Govt would never lie to you right?


50 posted on 04/03/2024 5:17:54 PM PDT by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: Red Badger

I don’t doubt that bad batches were sent to conservative areas, but there could also have been a preponderance of good batches that ended up in conservative areas in that the people in these areas running mass vax sites did a better job of keeping the vaccines cold and fresher and more effective.

I also think people in conservative areas more likely check out non mainstream media sites and thus were likely more aware of VAERS.


51 posted on 04/03/2024 5:23:22 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: Red Badger

FTA:

“The cross-sectional study looked at more than 620,000 entries in the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) from 2020 through 2022.

The data shows that a 10% increase in ballots cast for President Donald Trump in the last presidential election was associated with a 5% increase in reports of an adverse event after Covid vaccination.”

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A lot of this could simply be due to the fact that in conservative areas people were more skeptical of the vaxseem and read about it and became familiar with VAERS. These people, who didn’t get vaxxed themselves, may have suggested to friends and family who got the Covid vaxseem that the malady they didn’t have before they got the vaxseem could be due to the vaxseem and told them that they should file a VAERS report. There may have been enough conservatives who were suspicious that the vaxseem caused their malady that they took the advice.

A number of conservatives may have already been skeptical and worried about taking the vaxseem but had to take it in order to get to see their parents in a nursing home, fly internationally on required business trips, check on the welfare of their granddaughter, whose dangerously lunatic mother demanded proof of vaccination, etc. These skeptical and worried takers may have known about VAERS and when their fears about what the vaxseem might do to them came true....

BTW, link to the study;

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2816958


52 posted on 04/03/2024 5:41:29 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: JSM_Liberty

“Republicans more likely...”

Bing. Go.


53 posted on 04/03/2024 5:46:46 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (An nescis, mi fili, quantilla prudentia mundus regatur? - Axel Oxenstierna)
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To: Red Badger

I’d really like to see a poll of what percentage of D’s vs. R’s know what VAERs stands for and other basic questions related to the vaxseem, such if the makers can be held liable for injuries and whether or not the Covid vaxseem used traditional vaxseem methodology.


54 posted on 04/03/2024 5:48:42 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: JSM_Liberty
Republicans more likely to report adverse events in VAERS?

Likely, and are older.

While these associations were seen across all age groups, they were more pronounced among older people, the study found.

55 posted on 04/03/2024 6:39:47 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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