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Biden's green economy plans stumble as no one considered how much electricity would be needed
Just the News ^ | 4/7/24 | By Kevin Killough

Posted on 04/08/2024 3:00:08 AM PDT by CFW

The passage of the Inflation Reduction Act propelled forward President Joe Biden’s vision of a clean energy economy. As outlined in a 2023 guidebook, this remaking of the U.S. economy includes billions in funding for green tech manufacturing — everything from hydrogen production to batteries to solar panels.

The plan will not only create jobs and investments for Americans, according to the Biden administration, it will lower the nation’s dependence on China, which currently controls 80% of the global production in polysilicon and other components used in solar panels, 80% of wind-turbine components, and 89% of the refining to produce neodymium, a rare-earth element used in wind turbines.

Missing factors

To grow industrial activity at the scale Biden envisions, however, will require an enormous amount of electricity. China has been able to feed its green manufacturing economy by building out large amounts of coal capacity, while the U.S. has been shutting down a lot of its coal-fired capacity.

When the plans were laid out for this ramping up of U.S. green manufacturing, it doesn’t appear anyone considered that the U.S. grid would need a much larger supply of electricity. Where all that power would come from wasn’t factored into the plans. As a result, projects are already having trouble finding enough power, and the green economy has just gotten underway.

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KEYWORDS: electricity; energy; evs; fairydust; infrastructure; power; unicorns
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It should be a fairly easy and inexpensive solution to install more wall outlets in every home and business.
1 posted on 04/08/2024 3:00:08 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

This isn’t really news to those of us that have some common sense and at least a basic understanding of math. I like the idea of hydrogen though, but we’re not ready for that yet. Wind is just not reliable and very expensive, and solar requires mining which is not the best for our environment and both wind power mechanisms and solar panel production are mostly provided by the not so friendly country of China. We have years and years of gas, oil and coal that can be burned cleanly and efficiently. Yeas coal can be burned much cleaner than years ago, and gas is very clean. As far as creating jobs, well, they really mean a transfer of jobs thinking a miner can automatically become a solar panel worker. Eliminate one job for another using robots probably.


2 posted on 04/08/2024 3:22:36 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan
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Math is hard... especially when it totally destroys your fantasy Universe.


3 posted on 04/08/2024 3:25:47 AM PDT by USCG SimTech
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To: CFW
When the plans were laid out for this ramping up of U.S. green manufacturing, it doesn’t appear anyone considered that the U.S. grid would need a much larger supply of electricity.

I disagree. The left knew they were putting free Americans into a bind. Their cult followers are the only ones who couldn’t connect the dots.

4 posted on 04/08/2024 3:36:09 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: CFW

It wasn’t overlooked. They want us in cities on public transportation.


5 posted on 04/08/2024 3:36:45 AM PDT by TiGuy22
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To: CFW

One more thing if I may. Not very well published is that each wind turbine takes on average about 800 gallons of oil to lubricate all of the moving parts. This has to be changed every so often. Plans to build hundreds of these bird killing machines off shore and on land are in the works. Can anyone guarantee no leaks? And where is all of that oil coming from?


6 posted on 04/08/2024 3:39:40 AM PDT by Omnivore-Dan
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To: Tell It Right

These dots were connected long ago. But anyone asking even the most basic questions about supply were branded as deniers and enemies of the people.


7 posted on 04/08/2024 3:40:12 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: CFW

Stupid people with plans have consequences. Climate cultist will destroy the earth trying to save it. Solar farms are an ecological disaster along with lithium and other precious metals mines for batteries and wind farms all of which kill numerous animals as well.

There’s a small lunatic fringe that seems to running everything.


8 posted on 04/08/2024 3:53:01 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Tell It Right

They knew exactly what they were doing. Every time they create chaos and failure, they gain more power.

Look at the border. The Repubs have to “negotiate” with them and make concessions in order to get the Dems to promise to do what should be automatic - enforce the nation’s borders.


9 posted on 04/08/2024 3:54:02 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: CFW

But but but, there are winmills and solar panuls.


10 posted on 04/08/2024 4:01:10 AM PDT by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count)
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To: The Free Engineer

We would much better off with wind power coming from the ocean, feeding desalination facilities and pumping clean water inland to be used for farming and other potential economies. Solar driven transformer and pumping facilities would carry fresh water to farms and communities, while at the same time generating electricity.

75% of the earth is water. Why not just leverage that resource? In addition, by doing this, the “flooding” every left wing paid climate alarmist says will happen when the ice caps melt would already be mitigated by the technology.

Imagine, a world where everyone is afforded the opportunity to fresh water for hygiene and economic growth. And it would be so much easier than what is going on now with dictators driving economies into the dirt for their own personal gain.


11 posted on 04/08/2024 4:01:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (If it's Boeing, I ain't going!)
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To: CFW

Our government basically operates at this level.

12 posted on 04/08/2024 4:10:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: CFW

Ha Ha!


13 posted on 04/08/2024 4:25:09 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (Make orwell fiction again)
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To: CFW

We took a vacation with another couple several years ago.
It was an off grid cabin up Slumgullion Pass near Lake City, CO.
The cabin had propane lights and frig.
My wife and her friend usually split the hair dryer, curling iron, and other item women bring with them on trips.
Wife’s friend says she will bring hair dryer. My wife tells her the place is off grid.
Wife’s friend says she is aware of that, but surely they have a few plugins.


14 posted on 04/08/2024 4:25:15 AM PDT by Iceclimber58
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To: CFW

We’ve known this since the beginning. The other eye opener is that electricity is dependent on fossil fuels for production.


15 posted on 04/08/2024 4:31:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: CFW
Nuclear Power is the Most Reliable Energy Source and It's Not Even Close

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https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/nuclear-power-most-reliable-energy-source-and-its-not-even-close
There have been two major reactor accidents in the history of civil nuclear power – Chernobyl and Fukushima Daiichi. Chernobyl involved an intense fire without provision for containment, and Fukushima Daiichi severely tested the containment, allowing some release of radioactivity.

These are the only major accidents to have occurred in over 18,500 cumulative reactor-years of commercial nuclear power operation in 36 countries.

The evidence over six decades shows that nuclear power is a safe means of generating electricity. The risk of accidents in nuclear power plants is low and declining. The consequences of an accident or terrorist attack are minimal compared with other commonly accepted risks. Radiological effects on people of any radioactive releases can be avoided. - https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/safety-of-plants/safety-of-nuclear-power-reactors.aspx

Earth can regulate its own temperature over millennia, new study finds - https://news.mit.edu/2022/earth-stabilizing-temperature-1116
The Pros and Cons of Global Warming
16 posted on 04/08/2024 4:34:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Iceclimber58

“Wife’s friend says she will bring hair dryer. My wife tells her the place is off grid.
Wife’s friend says she is aware of that, but surely they have a few plugins.”


We have AC and DC power. And then we have what I call “AOC” power. It seems your wife’s friend believes in AOC power.


17 posted on 04/08/2024 4:41:37 AM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: Omnivore-Dan
FWIW a nuclear reactor is being refurbished and reopened in SW MI 2025.  With your interest money of course piled on the debt.  Also it is a fair guess that much of the juice is going to go Gary, IN and Chicago, IL certainly not where it is located in SW MI as it is rather rural.

Biden-Harris Administration Announces $1.5 Billion Conditional Commitment
18 posted on 04/08/2024 4:42:28 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: TiGuy22

“It wasn’t overlooked. They want us in cities on public transportation.”


I agree. People mock the Biden handlers’ incompetency or lack of knowledge regarding electrical power. Neither are true. They KNOW what they are doing. The “elite” will be traveling by private plane and ICE vehicles. We peons will be limited to walking, biking, or taking the electric bus to nowhere.

WE will be limited to 15 minute cities while THEY live in rural areas in well-heated, well-lit mansions on large fenced-in plantations, complete with private heli-pad or airstrip. A few privileged (think of the mayor in the original Red Dawn movie) will be allowed to live on the plantations in a small hut to provide slave services to the elite. People will vie for those jobs as cooks, maids, and grounds-keepers in order to escape the cities.


19 posted on 04/08/2024 4:49:08 AM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: Omnivore-Dan

Plans are to build 100’s of these bird and whale-killing wind turbines, offshore
and on land. Not very well published (b/c the greens dont want you to know) is that:
<><>it takes about 800 gal of (yikes) “oil” to lubricate the moving parts of a “wind turbine.”
<><>oiling has to be done every so often.
<><>any guarantees no “oil” leaks besmirch our pristine oceans and US land?
<><>And where is all of that oil coming from, greenman?


20 posted on 04/08/2024 5:07:39 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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