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Boeing to shutter Super Hornet line in 2027 after final Navy order: Boeing VP
Breaking Defense ^ | April 05, 2024 at 1:56 PM | Michael Marrow

Posted on 04/09/2024 3:52:26 AM PDT by Fish Speaker

SEA AIR SPACE 2024 — A recent Navy contract award may have extended the lifespan of Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet production for a couple more years, but after failing to find additional customers, the aerospace giant plans to close up shop on the legacy fighter after 2027, a Boeing executive tells Breaking Defense.

“We ran a number of international campaigns or competitions that we were unsuccessful in previous years,” Mark Sears, Boeing vice president for fighters, said in an interview. “Those kind of played out and there are no active discussions with the Navy about additional F-18s beyond these.”

Boeing will instead slow down its build rate of two jets per month to one and a half, while gradually pivoting its St. Louis Super Hornet workforce toward other programs like the F-15EX fighter, T-7A trainer and MQ-25 refueling drone, according to Sears. “We are growing at the site. And there is a need for the talent that exists on F-18 as we slow down and ultimately complete [the order],” Sears said, adding that Boeing doesn’t expect to see “any reductions” in the company’s workforce at the site as work on the Super Hornet winds down.

“Slowing down can be just as hard as speeding up, frankly, in the production space. We know there are challenges ahead for us in delivering these airplanes,” Sears cautioned, though he noted that Boeing doesn’t expect “any gaps” in deliveries. “We’re focused on delivering these jets on time in the new delivery schedule to the Navy because we know how badly the Navy needs this capability.”

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: fa18; superhornet
Apparently, the Navy negotiated for the data rights to the aircraft so they could keep it going after Boeing walked away. Maybe the Navy plans to get someone else to build more down the road?
1 posted on 04/09/2024 3:52:26 AM PDT by Fish Speaker
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To: Fish Speaker

The Super Hornet is functionally obsolete and is at the end of its line.


2 posted on 04/09/2024 4:00:08 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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I’m very ignorant aeronautically, but can’t these planes be upgraded through new technology rather than spend billions trying to develop entirely new aircraft?


3 posted on 04/09/2024 4:04:40 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: Fish Speaker
The F18 is done, but the F15 keeps chugging along, huh?

So where and when can I pick up a spare F18? LOL.

4 posted on 04/09/2024 4:06:46 AM PDT by jeffc (Resident of the free State of Florida)
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To: Fish Speaker

I’m sure SloJo will be more than happy to sell the assembly line to China…


5 posted on 04/09/2024 4:10:47 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: jeffc

The F-15 has always been a remarkable aircraft.


6 posted on 04/09/2024 4:25:21 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: jeffc

Bet F15 outlives F22 and F35. I’t versatile, fast, and comparatively economical. Who cares if they can see you coming if they can’t do anything to stop you?


7 posted on 04/09/2024 4:38:13 AM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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Bet F15 outlives F22 and F35. I’t versatile, fast, and comparatively economical. Who cares if they can see you coming if they can’t do anything to stop you?

The winner for longevity is still the B-52.

8 posted on 04/09/2024 5:11:43 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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....don’t forget the venerable KC-135.....still chugging along after some 70 years or so....??


9 posted on 04/09/2024 5:16:48 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: Yo-Yo

And the C-130 and the U2.


10 posted on 04/09/2024 5:21:14 AM PDT by Theophilus (covfefe)
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To: Jonty30

The Super Hornet is at heart a 1970s multi role naval aviation aircraft. It had two customer bases. Obviously one is naval aviation carrier forces but there are few of those and they all need the most modern front line aircraft. The second is multi role operators looking for a comparatively low cost strike fighter.

The US Navy has bought all the Super Hornets it needs to bridge its forces into the next generation of carrier opps.

Other carrier capable countries are either using domestic production aircraft for political reasons or a mix of F35C for large conventional aircraft carriers or STOVAL F35B to replace the Harrier jump jet on smaller vertical take off or ramp carriers

The Hornet has no more room to grow and too many compromises and limitations for carrier opps to make it a go for non aircraft carrier air forces looking to invest in a multi role strike fighter as the core of its air force for the next 30 years. All the current Super Hornet or Hornet operators are phasing out Hornets for F35s or some other new next gen air frame

The Super Hornet is a great plane but there are simply no buyers in the market to even buy existing F18s, much less fund a very expensive and risky upgrade deveoplment program at a time when the F35 is in the process of completing its own very expensive upgrade. Better to buy a vastly superior F35 with plenty of room to grow

The primary reason the US Navy is buying new Hornets is because the old ones have led a hard life and are worn out so it’s cheaper to buy new ones than to upgrade and patch up old ones while they wait for a next gen aircraft


11 posted on 04/09/2024 5:35:35 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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Apparently, the Navy negotiated for the data rights to the aircraft so they could keep it going after Boeing walked away. Maybe the Navy plans to get someone else to build more down the road?

Probably China.

12 posted on 04/09/2024 5:43:19 AM PDT by PAR35
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“Maybe the Navy plans to get someone else to build more down the road?”

Biden said he needs the F-15 to use against “domestic terrorists”...


13 posted on 04/09/2024 6:25:49 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: Fish Speaker

As air defenses continue to improve around the world, including through use of AI, non-stealth aircraft and their crew become ever more vulnerable.

It takes a lot of time and money to train military fighter pilots, so placing them in a position to be shot down or killed unnecessarily simply isn’t a long term option.

Unmanned attack drones with stealth capacity are the future.


14 posted on 04/09/2024 10:57:25 AM PDT by Bob Wills is still the king (Just a Texas Playboy at heart)
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Maybe the Navy plans to get someone else to build more down the road?

I would have a good laugh if they gave the project to Airbus. :)

15 posted on 04/09/2024 10:59:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Fish Speaker

Boeing will keep making them because someone from the Missouri congressional delegation will keep funding the production line, even if the Navy doesn’t want or need them.


16 posted on 04/09/2024 11:28:22 AM PDT by yawningotter
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