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Speaker Johnson to Send $96 Billion Israel-Taiwan-Ukraine Funding Package to House Floor on Friday
Red State ^ | 04/15/2024 | Streiff

Posted on 04/15/2024 6:37:09 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Vacate the chair!


21 posted on 04/15/2024 8:04:13 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish we lived in a Republic...we could Petition our government with our grievances, and there are many.


22 posted on 04/15/2024 8:08:20 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: VAFreedom

Could we condition out aid on not being able to use it to buy American made weapons?

Yeah, I know...no.

Well, can we at least avoid sending it through Ukraine first? There is a lot of “Shrink” there.


23 posted on 04/15/2024 8:10:51 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: RoseofTexas; All

Right on cue, PBS is gladly doing their part in spreading the bias of the Biden Administration concerning funding for Ukraine, by sending Amna Nawaz all the way to Kyiv to have a sit down interview with Zelensky, and airing it tonight on the PBS NewsHour.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/exclusive-zelenskyy-says-without-u-s-aid-well-have-no-chance-of-winning


24 posted on 04/15/2024 9:49:08 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: LachlanMinnesota; SeekAndFind

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I wish we lived in a Republic...we could Petition our government with our grievances, and there are many.
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Right to petition != mandate they heed, hear or read.

Though, personally, I find it quite ‘funny’ & ironic, many (R)N(C), & on FR, over the years being just DANDY w/ “foreign aide” (going to their supported ‘sugar baby’ du jour), or wailing “I ‘paid’ into {Ponzi scheme of support}”. Bet many voted in support the latest ${X} for ‘schools’, police/fire union contracts.

Hell, like abused spouses, many quickly returned to the stadiums to support their fav. teams....break & circuses.

We’re LONG past the lost Republic stage (can thank the tyrant Lincoln)

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“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority


25 posted on 04/16/2024 6:10:06 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If true, then there’s no choice but to vacate the chair.
I hope and pray that the votes to do so will be there.
I just wrote to my rep..all have same email format
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(first).(last)@mail.house.gov
example - jane.doe@mail.house.gov
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my email ended with God Bless the patriots who caused RINO McCarthy to leave.


26 posted on 04/16/2024 10:49:33 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: VAFreedom
the bill is a choice between let them keep the weapons for free or make them pay.

We are going to make them pay for our stuff by giving them our money to pay us with?

Speaking of letting them keep our stuff for free sounds suspiciously like they have been given our stuff without the needed congressional authorization. The bill would only to paper over what has already been done without congressional authorization.

If what you imply is accurate, then perhaps a good choice would be to throw the responsible officials in prison, and let them work for ten cents an hour until they pay back the $60B they owe to the people.

27 posted on 04/16/2024 1:00:18 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

it is how aid always worked, same bucket of money, it is just an oversimplification on my part.

if we give money to Ethiopia for famine, we’d expect them to spend that money on our product. so the grain is already on the ground being distributed due to famine, we just send ‘replacement’ grain later.

same with xxxx country in war. we already have our stuff in the conflict zone. by the time the congress decide on aid for xxxx (then to send aid, the war is over).... it just makes accounting easier.

there is always a loophole with aid, thru 3 party firms, typically US firms. getting part of that aid money, back into US firms. hmmm, wouldn’t it be great to run a ‘non-profit’ in a 3rd world country and get rich?


28 posted on 04/16/2024 2:11:30 PM PDT by VAFreedom (Wuhan Pneumonia-Made by CCP, Copyright Xi Jingping)
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To: VAFreedom
[#6] the bill is a choice between let them keep the weapons for free or make them pay.

[#28] if we give money to Ethiopia for famine, we’d expect them to spend that money on our product. so the grain is already on the ground being distributed due to famine, we just send ‘replacement’ grain later.

In the case of Ukraine, we have not given anyone the money. The money has not yet been created. Congress has not passed a package of funding for Ukraine in months and is still squabbling about whether to give them any more money.

[#28] same with xxxx country in war. we already have our stuff in the conflict zone. by the time the congress decide on aid for xxxx (then to send aid, the war is over).... it just makes accounting easier.

I have a very modest knowledge of military accounting. If the comptroller obligates a penny more spending the he has been authorized, he incurs a reportable accounting violation.

Either the weapons are in the possession of the U.S., or they have been given to Ukraine. We can stage it anywhere while in our possession. What takes authorization is to release the weapons from our possession. Release of the weapons without authorization is illegal.

Absent congressional authorization, they do not get the money, they do not get the weapons, and they have nothing to return. If the weapons remain in our possession, the concept of "a choice between let them keep the weapons for free or make them pay," does not arise.

29 posted on 04/16/2024 8:01:56 PM PDT by woodpusher
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