The Clintons, Abdurahman Alamoudi, and the Myth of "Moderate" Islam (READ THIS!!!!)

NEWSMAX ^ | 11-6-2000 | Lawrence Auster

[RedBloodedAmerican]

When Abdurahman Alamoudi, friend and sometime adviser on Islamic affairs to Hillary Rodham Clinton, stood before a Muslim crowd in Lafayette Park across from the White House this week and passionately declared his support for the terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah, he was revealing the true face of "moderate" Islam. He was also revealing the blindness, or rather the willful complicity, of America's political elites, particularly the Clintons, who have welcomed these Islamic "moderates" into our midst and helped raise them to important positions of influence in American life.

As revealed in last Friday's New York Daily News, Alamoudi, shortly before he began to work for the Clinton State Department in 1997 as a "goodwill ambassador" to Muslim countries, told the Islamic Association of Palestine in Chicago on December 29, 1996:

"I think if we are outside this country, we can say oh, Allah, destroy America, but once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it. There is no way for Muslims to be violent in America, no way. We have other means to do it. You can be violent anywhere else but in America."

In other words, whether by violent means from outside our borders or by nonviolent means from within our borders, the aim of Muslims is to destroy America. This message, which presumably Alamoudi delivered to Muslims in other countries as well as here, did not prevent a State Department official from saying this week that Alamoudi has had "overwhelmingly positive evaluations from our missions abroad."

Looking beyond the current flap over Hillary Clinton's return of a $1,000 campaign donation to Alamoudi and of $50,000 to a related Muslim group, the full extent of Alamoudi's relationship with the Clintons, going back several years, has not been widely reported.

As recounted by Steven Emerson in the March 13, 1996, Wall Street Journal, Alamoudi, then the executive director of the American Muslim Council, had repeated high-level contacts with the Clinton White House in late 1995 and early 1996, which happened to be the period immediately preceding the suicide bombings in Israel in early 1996. On November 9, 1995 he met with President Clinton and Vice President Gore at a meeting with 23 Muslim leaders at the White House. On December 8, National Security Adviser Anthony Lake met at the White House with Alamoudi and several board members of the American Muslim Council. On February 8, 1996, Mrs. Clinton wrote a newspaper column based on talking points provided by Alamoudi. And on February 20, 1996 (only a few days before the first Hamas bombing of the Number 18 bus in Jerusalem), Mrs. Clinton had Alamoudi's group draw up the Muslim guest list for a White House reception marking the end of the Muslim holy period of Ramadan, the first time such an event had ever been held at the White House.

Then, after the suicide bombings in Israel by Hamas (which, according to John Kifner in the March 15, 1996, New York Times, received crucial support from the Muslim community in the U.S. whose financial aid included assistance to the families of suicide bombers), President Clinton organized an "anti-terrorism" conference with Middle East Arab leaders, among them the same "moderate" leaders who supported the terrorist groups.

The American Muslim Council's ties with terrorists predated its intensive contacts with the Clinton White House in 1995 and 1996. The AMC had co-sponsored several conferences in the U.S. with a Hamas organization started by Musa Abu Marzuq, the Hamas leader who took responsibility for organizing suicide attacks against Israelis. The AMC had also arranged visits to the U.S. by Middle East militant groups such as the Egyptian Muslim brotherhood, and it also had a "special relationship" with the government of Sudan, which the U.S. had declared a terrorist regime.

Tolerant, "right-thinking" Americans are not supposed to notice any of this. We're not supposed to let the thought enter our heads that this tells us anything about the integrity of the Clintons, or about Israel's prospects for survival, or even about the fate of Western society as a whole, which has admitted millions of Muslim immigrants over the last several decades.

The politically correct line today is that Islamic radicals are only a "tiny minority" among American and other Western Muslims, the overwhelming majority of whom, we are assured over and over, are not extremists.

But even as the so-called moderate Muslims deny that they have any connection with extremists, they always seem to defend those same extremists.

In Steven Emerson's 1995 documentary "Jihad in America," a spokesman for the Islamic Committee for Palestine in Tampa, Florida, told an interviewer that his group had no alliance with terrorists. But when asked about Sheik Abdel-Rahman, the blind cleric who organized the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 and who also had spoken at a conference sponsored by this same Tampa group, the spokesman replied that Sheik Rahman was not a terrorist, but a "conservative."

The "moderate" Alamoudi has used a similar logic. When Musa Abu Marzuq was arrested by the FBI in July 1995, Alamoudi said Marzuq had never been involved in terrorism, adding that Marzuq's arrest was an "insult to the Muslim community."

Even Marzuq used the same defense. When "Sixty Minutes" reporter Steve Croft asked the jailed terrorist, "If a man straps a bomb on his body, gets on a bus and blows himself up along with 30 Israelis, is that terrorism?" Marzuq insisted that such an act was not terrorism.

This mind-set, so incomprehensible to Westerners, was on full display on a special segment of the "Charlie Rose" program immediately following the PBS airing of "Jihad in America" in 1995. The documentary included shocking footage of Islamic radical groups in America. Abdul Zindani of Hamas in Brooklyn was seen calling for "killing and finishing off" the "idol worshippers." Muslim radicals were shown meeting in Kansas City, Missouri, and a dozen other Middle American cities, spewing hatred of America and praising murder and terrorist acts.

One videotape of a meeting in New Jersey in 1993 showed Muslims chanting "we want the blood of Jews." In videos of Muslim summer camps in the U.S., young kids were saying "butcher the Jews." A man named Abdulla Azzam was shown speaking in Oklahoma City, Brooklyn, Atlanta, and Lawrence, Kansas, urging holy war against the West.

Instead of denouncing these barbaric calls to violence by American Muslims, the respectable "moderates" on the Charlie Rose panel – Clinton ally Abdurahman Alamoudi among them – all denounced the documentary for provoking anti-Muslim feeling. Alamoudi insisted that Hamas is not a terrorist group. Most amazingly, he and his fellow "moderates" said that Americans should not feel threatened by extremist leaders addressing large Muslim audiences in this country calling for "Jihad of the sword" and chanting "Kill the Jews, kill the Christians."

Attempting to explain away that murderous rhetoric, another well-known "moderate" on the panel, the late Mohammed Mehdi of the American Muslim Committee (a frequent guest on William Buckley's "Firing Line" over the years), said that Muslims habitually use hyperbole, such as "I'll kill your grandfather," but that it doesn't mean anything and people shouldn't take it seriously.

But the ineluctable problem remains: If the members of a certain group routinely engage in or approve of such bloodthirsty threatening language, how can they realistically be expected to be participants in a Western democratic society based on common allegiance to reason and the rule of law?

And how can any Western society survive the inclusion of large numbers of such people in it?

Thanks to the "moderates" themselves, we now understand some basic truths about Muslims, notwithstanding the contemporary notion that it is bigoted and racist to judge the Muslim community as a whole by the "tiny number" of extremists among them.

First, Islamic "moderates" deny that groups like Hamas are terrorists.

Second, Islamic "moderates" deny that preachers and mobs chanting "Kill the Jews, butcher the Christians" should be seen by Americans as a threat.

Third, Islamic "moderates" do not oppose the extremists, but show solidarity with their extremist fellow Muslims; make excuses for them; bitterly denounce American journalists for publicizing the existence of these groups; and, most significantly, describe any attempt by America to defend itself from Islamic terrorism as an expression of "anti-Muslim" bias.

In making this last argument, the "moderates" on the Charlie Rose panel didn't seem to realize what they were revealing about themselves and the community they represent: If opposing Islamic terrorism is anti-Muslim, then Islam is indeed inseparable from terrorism. Alamoudi and his fellow "moderates" thus provided a more profound indictment of Islam than anything in Stephen Emerson's chilling documentary about the extremists.

The "moderate" Muslims' insistence that Americans must see nothing, say nothing and do nothing about Muslim terrorists in our midst should give us an idea of what life will be like in this country when Muslims achieve real political power here. Thanks to the Clintons in particular and the U.S. political establishment in general, and thanks most of all to America's suicidal immigration policy of the last 35 years, America's quickly growing population of Islamic "moderates" have already started to acquire such power.

[Coyote]

Muslim radicals were shown meeting in Kansas City, Missouri, and a dozen other Middle American cities, spewing hatred of America and praising murder and terrorist acts.

Thanks for this posting. It really explains a lot. But I suspect that the kind of thing described in Kansas City will no longer be tolerated. If they try, I think RedBloodedAmericans will go to the grave just to take them along. This may be true of the radical left that's been responsible for willfully undermining our moral strength in an attempt to destroy us from within. Hint: if you're used to smugly throwing around anti-American leftist rhetoric in public, better get to know a good dentist, because you may have to replace some teeth.

I just recently came to know that the Japanese learned Kamakaze bombing by watching American pilots flying their planes into Japanese carriers. The Japanese were astounded, because they had been conditioned by years of American liberalism during the 20's and 30's to think of Americans as morally weak and without courage. I suspect that Radical Islam, one by one, and even if not from the point of view of the nation-state, but even on the streets of the world, will also be forced to admit that their claim to unique suicidal courage is a lie and a sham.

In our cultural lore, God may have loved Judas no less than any of us for his betrayal, but Judas will always be remembered for his dispicable subordination to the will of God, rather than his courage. I somehow think it's possible that Radical Islam will be remembered in the same way.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Thank you. I believe you posted this originally.

May God have mercy on us.

There are many who say to mention Clintons name now is wrong.

I would say if Clinton wasn't invloved in whats wrong, his name would not be mentioned.

[TrueBeliever9]

>>>Islam is a very pacifistic religion with very strict rules on whom to kill and when.<<<

I copied this from post #29

There is only Islam and those countries and peoples who have not been conquered by Islam; therefore, anyone who is not Isalmic falls under the "whom to kill"; "when" is whenever possible - where-ever possible!

[First_Salute]

Your reply 40 --- I for one, do keep it in mind, always; and thank you.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

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[norton]

So Islam is merely four to five hundred years behind the other world relegions -
What evils took place because european Catholics were too humble to protest the inquisition? Too willing to submit to the calls for another crusade? Willing to trade one king for another because their clerics deemed it appropriate>
What percent of the population suffered because a small number of clerics decided that witches float?

Non fanatical muslims and their supporters might consider how many Jews died being humble before those who wrested Israel from a political impasse chose to act.
(Note that I don not pass jusgement on your support, I've talked with former enemy soldiers and airmen whom I liked and respected more than some of my peers. Steriotyping is a trap.)

I believe that we deserved Bill Clinton because we allowed him to take office and to keep it for eight years, whatever the causes or the arguements we were not enough to remove him. In a similar manner I believe that those moderate Muslims who quietly and ineffectually oppose the Bin Ladens of this world, just like those who act "progressive" while quietly cheering them on, deserve their fates entwined with those of the fanatics.

[norton]

Oh, yeah, and let God sort 'em out.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

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[Anamensis]

but once we are here, our mission in this country is to change it...

I consider that a hostile action. Trying to turn my country into a muslim country, by ANY means, is foul. Die.

[Anamensis]

A moderate Muslim is one whose patience with us has not yet worn out!

Exactly. I've read a lot of the Koran too, and the quotes they trot out that seem to be non-violent are quotes from passages dictating how muslims are to treat OTHER MUSLIMS. NOT unbelievers, and it says clearly that Jews and Christians are UNBELIEVERS!

[lavaroise]

bump. Some people actualy like raising feces above their own heads, the Clintons are particularly adept at this death cult. Anyone can make money with anything, manure included. The Clinton know that too.

[E.G.C.]

Thanks for the posting that article. I totally agree with your keywords.

[gargoyle]

...We will continually be distracted by "new" news, to take our minds off of the "old" news. What we, as a nation have endured this week, must not be clouded by what misery has taken place the last eight demonic years. The two headed beast continues to speak and comfort us for those they have murdered. And, yes, Bush has been quiet about the crimes that preceded his administration.

....All we can do is be patient and diligent...

[RedBloodedAmerican]

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[RedBloodedAmerican]

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[KDD]

For you.

[KDD]

Another article about our Islamic enemies

[RedBloodedAmerican]

FYI

[fella]

"I had forgotten Hillary Clinton and the extremists donation."

Just what they were counting on. Read a koran and you will see that we are in a religious war and tolerance will get a lot more than 5,000 of us killed.

[Aquinasfan]

Please post #16 as a separate thread.