Posted on 10/15/2001 5:44:48 PM PDT by Merovingian
Boy can this ass puke out propaganda or what!
The sad thing is many Americans believe this crap.
What's a right-wing Christian? Just being a Christian means I accept only one as my King and that's Jesus Christ. This is what threatens the nwo, and why they must brand us as evil.
I said before the elections that putting Bush in the Whore House would be like putting satan in there. Beware of the man who calls evil good and good evil, as he promises to wipe evil from the face of the earth.
Peace
Boy, the fact that they're dragging this out right now is SUCH a surprise - NOT!
We have to keep an eye on these media ba$tards, now more than ever.
Especially the socialist limeys!
FRegards,
That might be almost worth seeing.
The International Left is on the ropes, here and abroad, because now everybody sees how crazy and deadly Socialism/Liberalism is.
And you guys are SO DESPERATE because this crisis is undoing 70 years of your lying and murderous work.
NRA. Right. Pat Robertson. Right.
Guess what dude, this whole thing is the best thing to happen to the Second Amendment and to conservatism in the past 100 years.
This is the last coffin-nail in your Commie dreams of world domination you dirtbag Demo.
Have a nice day, bong-water!
A mid-eastern attack would hit more symbols of our western culture - the things they hate. I don't specifically know where those attacks would be directed but attacks on Microsoft? Why would terrorists go after them? The AMI I can understand. Just do not understand Brokaw and not Fox, Daschle and not a conservative representative.
Sorry you get upset that someone has any suspicion against militia types - however they themselves create the atmosphere for suspicion. They support each other in hatred for their own government, they feed each other hate and it engenders hate.
There are no-doubt many great militia people. Why not - the militia starts out as true patriots seeking others to prepare for a government that turns against its own people. However, it also attracts any that love to hate, love to play war games, and would be a prime target of those seeking to undermine the government of a country.
A true patriot should be aware of this fact even more than me - a woman poster on FR. Of course, terrorists types would gravitate to a group they find that has people arming, that furthers anti-government rhetoric and provides a source of potential recruits for their future deeds.
How hard is it to understand that militia groups can easily be corrupted into hate-filled groups of war hungry individuals antsy to go after their own government? Possibly infiltrated with undercover terrorists or anti-American individuals.
Why do individuals leave these groups - that should be the question to investigate. What is it that makes people leave a militia. I would think they come to see the group has evolved into something they do not want to be part of. Why? What caused the change in the group, who caused the change?
Yup.
Sure looks that way now, huh?
I'll repeat what the sage poster, "Petronski" so acutely points out in $149:
"Now THIS sounds like a Reichstag fire..."
Yea. Sure does.
The "bozos" I was referring to are the Texas Republic and Montana Freemen types who are clearly looney. These and the other reflexively Anti-State are the ones I am discussing. They wouldn't be able to handle any kind of bio-warfare not even lighting chili farts on the deerstand without wiping themselves out.
I don't care if they call themselves "patriots" that doesn't mean they understand the Constitution or the history of our nation.
I know you "just" stated your opinion. And then, I stated mine. After all, fair's fair, right?
The problem is that this opinion of yours is nothing more than an autobiographical statement on your part. What you are saying can be summed up as "I, ClancyJ, can't think of a reason why middle east terrorists would want to attack these targets."
This is a fact about yourself, not about the targets.
Just because you can't think of a reason for these to be targets of terrorists doesn't mean that no such reason exists, you see. I have thought of several possible reasons, and explained them to you. If you insist on not seeing those as valid reasons then there is little I can do to stop you, I suppose. But, the reasons are there.
A mid-eastern attack would hit more symbols of our western culture - the things they hate.
You mean like a powerful, prominent member of the government of the Great Satan (i.e. Daschle)? And the Israeli-controlled US media (i.e. Brokaw, etc.)? You know something, I agree with you, they would attack this type of target.
And, most likely, they did.
I don't specifically know where those attacks would be directed but attacks on Microsoft? Why would terrorists go after them?
Well, for starters, Microsoft is a gigantic and visible and wealthy company which is a symbol of American software dominance and knowhow. You think?
Just do not understand Brokaw and not Fox,
I thought Fox was attacked, it was all over FR last nite.
Daschle and not a conservative representative.
This is getting silly. Are the attacks supposed to come in matching pairs?
Say you are a terrorist. You want to attack a highly visible government official. So you pick, say, Senate Majority Leader Daschle. Maybe you chose him at random. Or because you just happened to see him on TV recently. Whatever. You pick him, you only have one anthrax dose left, so you send him a letter.
Does the fact that you as a terrorist didn't "balance things out" by also sending such a letter to Senator Lott prove some kind of "bias" on your part, or that you chose Daschle BECAUSE he's a Democrat?
Like I said, that is silly. That is the type of post hoc reasoning on which astrology and numerology is based, in fact.
Sorry you get upset that someone has any suspicion against militia types - however they themselves create the atmosphere for suspicion.
How exactly did they "create the atmosphere for suspicion" when there is no evidence whatsoever linking this to militia types in the first place? This is just plain wrong. You are blaming them for "creating" suspicions that you have in your own head for no reason and with no evidence whatsoever.
They support each other in hatred for their own government, they feed each other hate and it engenders hate. There are no-doubt many great militia people. Why not - the militia starts out [bla...]
Look, obviously "militias" are a big important subject to you. Personally I haven't thought much about the subject since the glory days of 1995-96. But whatever, you're afriad of "militias", you're obsessed with them, and now with these attacks you're trying to make them fit into the mold of that which you fear - "militias".
I understand all this I guess, it's just that none of it is rational, or anything close. Isn't there some other, more productive way you can work through your obsession with militias?
How hard is it to understand that militia groups can easily be corrupted into hate-filled groups of war hungry individuals antsy to go after their own government? Possibly infiltrated with undercover terrorists or anti-American individuals.
I "understand" this perfectly, and don't even disagree with it, as a possibility. It's just that there's no evidence and therefore no reason whatsoever to link this to "militia types" in the first place. Sure, it could be domestic "hate-filled groups" and "undercover terrorists or anti-American individuals" doing these things.
They could be LEFT-WING domestic terrorists, in fact. There is no reason to suspect right-wing extremists any more than there is reason to suspect left-wing extremists. There's just not.
The (D) besides Daschle's name notwithstanding.
Other than the fact that this article has sent my (normally low) blood pressure through the roof, I guess I'm glad I read it. Everyone needs to witness a good dose of idiocy now and then.
Mr. Bruce is either a shill for the behind-the-scenes globalist puppeteers, or an ignorant swallower (sans chewing) of their sickening pap.
I take issue with every other word in this disgusting diatribe. But in the interest of time, and in deference to my soaring blood pressure, I'd like to refute just the most obscene of them:
Every state has its own "patriot" group of disaffected right-wing Christian radicals opposed to central government and federal regulations.
George Washington, James Madison, Patrick Henry, Thomas Paine, John Hancock, et al were a patriot group of disaffected right-wing Christian (radicals?) opposed to central government and federal regulations. Interesting that such an appellation is now somehow considered a slur.
Every state has its own "patriot" group .... The FBI estimates their numbers at up to 40,000 .... All have links with the National Rifle Association.
This Brit makes liberal use of the art of exaggeration (taken to its ultimate extreme, it's known as lying). Forty thousand militia members, found in every state of the union, all have links with the NRA. Even anyone with half a brain who knew nothing about militias would be suspect of such a blanket generalization. (And, just for the record, there are many of us (disaffected right-wing-Christian-radicals-opposed-to-central-government-and-federal-regulations) militia members who believe that the NRA's stances are often too soft in defending Second Amendment issues. How do you like them apples, Mr. Bruce? :)
.... the right of all Americans "to own and bear arms" .... There is some doubt as to whether this right is enshrined legally in the American constitution.
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Doesn't get much clearer than that. (1) Where, exactly, does this 'legalistic' doubt exist, Mr. Bruce? And (2) what is its source? Answers: (1) In the minds of those who seek to pervert the original intent of the Constitution, and (2) the desire to disarm the (innocent, law-abiding) American populace.
Most of the militias' philosophy is based on white-supremacist principles, looking down on blacks as "mud people" and Jews as instigators of the global plot against them and manipulators of the world economy for their own benefit.
These are about the most outrageous, obscene allegations I have ever read. Their ignorance, combined with the obvious desire to foment racial and religious antagonism toward/fear of patriot Americans, is repulsive.
The various references to lethal biological agents in the last few paragraphs of this harangue connect none of them to legitimate militia members, and the statement Larry Wayne Harris of the Aryan Nations managed to buy samples of bubonic plague over the internet is (conveniently, but subliminally) extraneous to Mr. Bruce's assertions. Is he claiming that the Aryan Nations is a militia group???? Nowhere in this entire piece of (il)literary garbage does Mr. Bruce offer a scintilla of evidence that any American militia member has any kind of connection with the use (or the desired use) of biological agents. Mr. Bruce obviously has some sort of axe to grind, and has decided that truth and integrity are irrelevant to his purposes.
A pox on you and your kind, Mr. Bruce. You are a fetid example of destructive, caustic, narrow-minded, agenda-driven 'journalism' (at its worst).
(Who says we militia types can't be cordial? :)
ROTFLMAO!
You have mail.
Thanks. We must resist villification. Militias are NOT the enemy.
It'll be the ruin of us all (by diverting efforts from the real culprits to attack personal "enemies").
Plus that charge will plant the seed of suspicion in gulible minds. Much like the polls in the Middle East that show a strong belief that there was a Jewish plot behind the 9/11 attacks.
There are people within this country who are claiming that the attacks were McVeigh types. Of course they come from the looney left. I seen this from the LaRouchians who are saying that "Russian Intelligence" is saying that the hijackers were white McVeigh types. The rest of the theory requires some heavy tinfoil...
This article appears in the Oct. 12, 2001 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
When U.S. Joint Chiefs Planned Terror Attacks on America by Edward Spannaus
According to documents that were intended to have been destroyed almost 40 years ago, top levels of the U.S. military proposed carrying out acts of terrorism against the United States in the early 1960s, in order to drag the United States into a war against Cuba.
These documents take on added significance in light of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, which were clearly intended, among other things, to drag the United States into a "Clash of Civilizations" war in the Middle East. As Lyndon LaRouche has stressed, the Sept. 11 attacks could not have been carried out without complicity from rogue elements in military/security circles inside the United States.
For those who are concerned that all the details just don't add up, not all reported details are always correct.
Trivial case: it was reported that Mohammed Atta played pinball the night before the attacks. Saw this in print several places. One article mentioned the pinball machine name, "Golden Tee" - a golf VIDEO GAME. If they can't get the simple stuff right I don't give them much chance of getting all the "more important" details right either. Seen this with any story I had personal knowledge about (no major life threatening stories, just events I was at or subjects that I knew a bit about).
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