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To: Dan from Michigan; Flashlight
Great Read. FDR was IMO, the WORST president we ever had.

FDR was the first in line of three presidents who helped to move our nation towards socialism. The second was LBJ who was FDR's point man and protege. LBJ capitalized on what FDR had begun. The Great Society put a deadlocking economic strain our nation that we are STILL trying to fend off. It was Clinton who tried to polish all of the work of FDR and LBJ. If it weren't for our Republican Congress in 1994, we'd be in a whole lot of hurt today.

21 posted on 10/21/2001 12:20:55 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Slyfox
Don't forget Woodrow Wilson. His adminstration gave us the League of Nations, the Federal Reserve Bank and the Income Tax. FDR followed suit with a host of unconstitutional federal programs. In 1943, he implemented "payroll withholding," a monster that still haunts Americans every payday.

This country ceased to be a constitutional republic many years ago. We remain in a steady state of decline, even under the current administration. Bush's new Homeland Security Agency is merely another nail in the coffin of this once-great Republic.

30 posted on 10/21/2001 1:09:48 PM PDT by Un-PC
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To: Slyfox
...It was Clinton who tried to polish all of the work of FDR and LBJ...

Oh yeah, I remember the health-care fiasco.

(side note: I remember how it was going to be "paid for": "Employers" maybe 80 percent, don't remember exactly, and maybe 20 percent by "employees". just like social security is paid for 50 percent each. Of course, anyone with a brain should be able to quicky realize that in each case the "employee" pays for 100%, and the "employer" just mails the IRS a check which is part of the employee's earned compensation.)

You're right in that the Republican congress saved us (certainly with respect to the budget, anyway), but the health-care thing was killed before that, by the Democrats. The reason was that the Clintons were so incompetent that even the Dems coudn't support their plans.

My opinion is that the Clintons tried to expand the FDR-LBJ stuff purely as a means to getting and weilding power, but they found that it wasn't working and switched to the Dick Morris/triangulation srategey, which allowed them to remain in office (and if Clinton had just ignored that one intern, we'd have President Gore now, and I don't like to think about what that would mean.)

35 posted on 10/21/2001 11:56:29 PM PDT by Flashlight
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