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1 posted on 11/19/2001 9:07:12 PM PST by ouroboros
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2 posted on 11/19/2001 9:08:16 PM PST by ouroboros
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and find they are on a political Highway of Death.

You ought to know, Mr. WND cub reporter.
Has any former candidate fallen so far so fast?

3 posted on 11/19/2001 9:12:53 PM PST by PRND21
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BTTT Of course Mideast peace is an illusion. Bible Prophecy predicts that the Anti-Christ will usher in a Mideast peace-it lasts 31/2 years! Pat is right, as usual.
6 posted on 11/19/2001 9:46:05 PM PST by brat
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Pat was on Fox News tonight, and they were talking about immigration policies. Some were tearing into him! He got angry and said: "IT'S OUR HOME! IT'S NOT SOME JOB FAIR FOR CORPORATIONS SO THEY CAN HIRE CHEAP LABOR! IT'S OUR HOME! Bravo Pat!
7 posted on 11/19/2001 9:48:44 PM PST by brat
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There is that phrase again "Amen corner." Pat would reward terrorists. He is right on immigration, wrong on this issue.

I say if Israel must, take another 50 miles as a wider perimeter, as a pre-emptive move for their own security. Arafat had his chance, and refused it. Palestinians are terrorists, and will not stop if given a state.

8 posted on 11/19/2001 11:04:18 PM PST by truth_seeker
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Where have you gone, Gen. Eisenhower?

During the Eisenhower regime, Ezra Taft Benson, his appointee to to secretary of agriculture, enacted federal programs that led directly to over 1,000,000 Southerners being displaced from their farms.

9 posted on 11/20/2001 2:24:00 AM PST by shuckmaster
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So let me get this straight...

More important, with this latest intifada marked by massacres of children at pizza parlors, Israelis no longer believe security can be found cheek-by-jowl with an Arafat-led Palestinian state. Who can blame them?

And then he rants about the Israeli lobby? So he RECOGNIZES that Arafat wants to destroy Israel, but he complains that the U.S. won't let him!! What nerve!

10 posted on 11/20/2001 2:52:44 AM PST by mmmmmmmm....... donuts
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Pat's simple solution to everything- blame the Jews.
12 posted on 11/20/2001 3:10:22 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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Pat's message, at times, rings with truth. Fortunately Pat as the messenger has long since been eclipsed by Pat the person. He has, by his own hand and mouth, moved his possible impact on the body politic to complete irrelevancy.
16 posted on 11/20/2001 3:43:21 AM PST by ImpBill
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Not only offensive, but wrong on every dimension. For one thing, Israel is a democracy. That means if "land for peace" deals with Arafat were a credible concept, the Israeli people could elect a government to conduct them. Its not a question of Barak dying and a new Pasha taking over. H got voted out of office after Arafat said NO to 98% of the occupied territories, half of Jerusalem, additional land to make up for the 2% he lacked. Plus handover of the settlements, MILITARY ASSISTANCE for God's sake, untold billions of US foreign aid from Clinton. Arafat says NO to this. Why? Because he would have been murdered by Hamas. What the Israeli doves learned last year, was that Arafat cannot deliver the "peace" part of this deal. The offer is still there of course. Sharon says he'll start talks as soon as 7 days go by without a terrorist attack on Israelis. So far there has been no hiatus.

I also think that there is more behind the US commitment to Israel than campaign donations from Jewish Americans. For one thing, we would be much further behind on this war on terror than we are without Israeli intelligence. It is nice to have one reliable stable democracy in the MidEast. The Saudis won't be around much longer. Egypt has returned to a barely managed autocracy with a basket case economy. Turkey lurches from crisis to crisis. Kuwait? Oman? Jordan? OK, Pat go have fun with your friends.

17 posted on 11/20/2001 3:49:33 AM PST by babble-on
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I'm shocked to see Pat B. come down on the side of an issue that runs against Israel. One more time and he'll have done so 1,000 times in a row. Combined with his quotes regarding Jews and Nazis he sure is a consistent sort.

And yet when he's accused of being anti-Jew and anti-Israel he's defended by some who say "Show me the proof". Even odder is the fact that those demanding the proof usually land on the very same sides of the very same issues.

In a time when the avowed enemies of Israel are the avowed enemies of the United States (you may recall the WTC incident) there are still some that support our enemies. Most ironically of all, they call themselves patriots and accuse the rest of us of being un-patriotic.

19 posted on 11/20/2001 3:53:54 AM PST by sakic
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for the conditions of peace ... no longer exist

this is true. the conditions have not existed since 1 ad. biblical prophecy tells us that peace in the middle east is not going to happen.

25 posted on 11/20/2001 4:47:13 AM PST by mlocher
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He threw just about everything out there. Doesn't make much sense to me.
36 posted on 11/20/2001 5:37:06 AM PST by dennisw
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Immigrant Invasions? Pat got into trouble with his last book, A Republic Not An Empire, when he wrote something like, "if things continue, a majority of Americans will not claim Europe as their ancestral home..."

I don't know why Pat would bemoan racial and cultural diversity. Pat's attitude is especially ironic since he is descended from Irish immigrants.

40 posted on 11/20/2001 5:43:20 AM PST by Jeff Smith
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...Palestinians have lost 700 dead in this uprising – including women and children – and thousands wounded...

Maybe the cowards should quit sending them out on the front lines.

Pat, Pat, Pat...unbelievable.

48 posted on 11/20/2001 5:53:35 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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Pat is now reduced to using Senator Fulbright as his source of wisdom?

How the mighty have fallen.

51 posted on 11/20/2001 5:56:55 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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The despicable liar is back again. Can Mr. Buchannon give evidence of the $100 billion in aid. It is a figment of his imagination. 90% of aid to Israel is spent in this country on American armaments. Does Buchannon wish Israel to be defeated because of lack of arms? We know the answer. The man is pure evil.
56 posted on 11/20/2001 6:11:45 AM PST by imperator2
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It is silly to think that US policy toward Israel is driven by nothing else but the "Amen corner". There is logic in Israeli retaliatory raids into the PA: the same logic by which we bomb the Taliban. There is logic in denying the Palestinians a sovereign state: if they can't hold the terrorist attacks for one month, nothing better should be expected of a Palestinian state.

The only sensible American policy toward Israel would be to encourage them to annex the West Bank and Gaza, so that they could police it, drastically reduce aid to the region, and signal to the Middle Eastern states that whatever results would be achieved by war, if they choose to go to war, will be allowed by the United States to stand, -- neither Jews or Arabs will be shielded from the consequences of their political decisions by a truce forced from the outside.

66 posted on 11/20/2001 6:40:49 AM PST by annalex
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Israelis will emerge victorious and delighted.

It's the way of the universe.

Something to balance out Buchanan's defeat and bitterness.

71 posted on 11/20/2001 7:20:41 AM PST by Sabramerican
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And I thought I was confused!! PJB, the great isolationist opponent of "Empire", the white cross bearing Knight of Malta, now presents us Pax Americana??
74 posted on 11/20/2001 7:58:59 AM PST by scottiewottie
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