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To: conway
Your Aristotolean argument doesn't work here. Attack the message, not the messenger.

The "attack the message, not the messenger" phrase is used when the messenger is simply conveying a message he himself did not write. That wasn't the case here because you yourself composed the message, typed it into the response box and then hit the "post reply" button. And what in the world does Aristotle have to do with anything?

The main fact here is that Middle Eastern Jews had lived in the Middle East for about 2100 years before there ever was a Muslim. They had a well-defined nation there with a system of government, a seat of government, a national identity until as a nation they were decapitated by the Romans. In this region from the time the nation of Israel was first established until 1948 when it was reestablished, there wasn't any equivalent Muslim Arab nation. There was Roman activity in the area, there were warring Muslim Arab factions after the great Muslim war of conquest had stretched from the Far East to North Africa. But even then, there was a continual Jewish presence throughout the Middle East in Egypt, Syria, Persia (Iran/Iraq), Saudi Arabia, and what was left of Israel after the Romans finished trampling it.

Again, MIDDLE EASTERN JEWS ARE NOT NEWCOMERS TO THE MIDDLE EAST--THEY WERE THERE FOR OVER 20 CENTURIES BEFORE IT OCCURRED TO MUHAMMED TO INVENT HIS RELIGION TO COUNTER JUDAISM AND CHRISTIANITY.

The problem isn't a Jewish presence in the Middle East. The problem is, and has been, the presence of a "religion" there dedicated from near its beginning* to oppressing and wiping out Jews. To blame the trouble stemming from this mindset on the Jews is like blaming a bank for a bank robbery.


*In the beginning, Muhammed attempted to woo Jews by incorporating various elements of Jewish worship into his religion. The Jews refused to have anything to do with him. As a result, he purged the system of these elements and reoriented everything toward Mecca and oppressing Jews. This is just a matter of history.
10 posted on 11/28/2001 4:46:50 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Thanks for the history lesson. Do you have a solution to all of this? This whole thing just keeps on going like the energizer bunny.

I am the worst speller on free republic so, thanks for validating me.

13 posted on 11/28/2001 6:31:42 AM PST by conway
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