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To: Regulator
It would be pretty simple to find out, wouldn't it? All that it would take is a ruling from the Supreme Court. So tell me. Why hasn't Mr. Davis appealed it? Why was Bustamante so terrified of it?

It's called "not taking any chances." They are opposed to Proposition 187; Davis, Bustamante, and Lockyer are vested with the authority to engage OR NOT ENGAGE in lawsuits to uphold ballot propositions. They used that discretion to make SURE the issue wouldn't come up during their terms. If you don't like that, then write a ballot proposition requiring that the state of California vigorously defend ALL ballot propositions--but that would also require a conservative governor to defend and uphold some of the liberal looniness that gets put through, as well.

And then explain to me why the citizens of a foreign nation have the right to decide that they will be the beneficiaries of my labor, and not me. Or why they have a right to come among us without our leave.

I never argued that--you are merely saying that I did. Please enunciate, IN DETAIL, exactly why I should respond to false charges from you.

Proposition 187 was on constitutionally shaky ground to begin with, because immigration is a federal issue, not a state issue.

We then had the spectacle of Pete Wilson--a man not known for giving an airborne improper relationship about illegal immigration during his time as mayor of San Diego or Senator from California, and he hadn't shown any sign of being interested in 1991-1993 when he became governor--suddenly discovering nativist impulses, just in time for a reelection bid AND a Presidential campaign foray. (Kinda like Hillary suddenly discovering she was REALLY a Yankees fan growing up in Chicago during the Senate race in New Yawk.)

If we'd had the testicular fortitude to pitch Wilson out during the 1994 primary and nominate Ron Unz, and to stay away from an unneeded fight on Proposition 187, Gray Davis would be known only as Moonbeam's former chief of staff. Instead, we woke the slumbering Hispanic electorate with a commercial campaign that didn't discuss illegal immigration, it just screamed "BROWN PEOPLE DOUBLEPLUSBAD!"

26 posted on 02/11/2002 5:28:12 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
"I never argued that--you are merely saying that I did. Please enunciate, IN DETAIL, exactly why I should respond to false charges from you"

Forget it, junior. I'm not going to respond to any of your juvenile demands or attempts to inject anger and hysteria into what was a civil discussion. You do this on every thread I've seen - you accuse every one of making false accusations, you affect self-righteous indignation about everyone insulting your opinions, it gets tedious.

I'm sure you'll be jumping up and down in response to this. I could care less if you ever respond to anything I post, say, or write.

Have a nice night.

33 posted on 02/11/2002 8:34:05 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Poohbah
Proposition 187 was on constitutionally shaky ground to begin with, because immigration is a federal issue, not a state issue.

Non sequitur. Proposition 187 didn't restrict or regulate immigration.

47 posted on 02/12/2002 10:00:44 AM PST by Roscoe
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