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Mr. Dershowitz is making sense (finally)
1 posted on 03/10/2002 4:34:44 PM PST by eclectic
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To: eclectic
It might be an improvement over the present approach. But...it's much the same sort of thing the Nazis used to do. "We have taken 1,000 citizens hostage. If the Resistance blows up our ammo dump, we will kill them." I know this isn't the same thing, but Israel's enemies will happily pretend that it is.
2 posted on 03/10/2002 4:43:18 PM PST by ArcLight
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An alternative approach would be to announce in advance that Israel is prepared to give back most of the occupied territory in the event of peace - which it has already essentially done - but every act of terrorism will result in an automatic and permanent decrease of a specific portion of the land mass that eventually would constitute the Palestinian state.

This plan is no good, because the Palestinians already say they want more territory than Israel is offering them at most, and because, by making the losses permanent, decreases the chances for peace in the future.

A better solution would simply be to continue to build new settlements (And displace Palestinians) with every terrorist attack. If it takes 100 years for Israel to retake the Palestinian areas, then so be it. But--in order give an incentive to make peace--offer that if the Palestinian government made real progress in cracking down on the terrorists, that ALL of the settlements would be returned. And then, if the Palestinians can be peaceful for at least ten years, they could see about giving up East Jerusalem to be the Palestinians' capital.

The problem with the current peace proposals is that they're stupid. Why should Israel surrender REAL territory BEFORE the Palestinians deliver any of their promises? That was the spirit of the Oslo Accords, and that's why they failed.

3 posted on 03/10/2002 4:43:53 PM PST by xm177e2
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Mr. Dershowitz is making sense (finally)

Not really.


In light of the willingness of suicide bombers to die in the process of killing Israelis, the traditional methods of deterrence and retaliation seem insufficient.

Dershowitz and his ilk are the ones for whom the traditional methods of war are unacceptable. Cut off food, water, and electricity. Kill everyone with a towel on his head or face, and destroy the mosques; and peace will come very quickly.

ML/NJ

4 posted on 03/10/2002 4:46:19 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: eclectic
Interesting and thought provoking.
6 posted on 03/10/2002 4:50:32 PM PST by Travis McGee
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The only solution is to deport all of the Palestinians to the neigboring countries. There will be no peace until the Arabs or the Israelis lose completely. This is a religious war. BTW How can the Saudis promise peace unless they are completely in control of the terrorism?
12 posted on 03/10/2002 5:24:33 PM PST by Robear
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Won't work. Pallies believe that very shortly they will have ALL of Israel, and the Jewish state will be no more. They know that just what they are doing now, makes that inevitable within a few years.

They are not going to change their activities and their course in any way, unless Israel could actually make it non-possible for them to go on...not HAVING any explosives, or any suicide bombers...or anything else!

Nor will treaties, cease-fires, etc help, for these are agreements between Muslims and infidels and thus non-enforceable against the Muslims. There would never have been any intention to abide by them even as the signatures were made.

You know I am right, Dershowitz knows I am right, and Bush and Sharon know I am right. The population itself must be targeted and transferred. Otherwise, no Israel, start erasing it from your maps tonight!

No, I am not kidding.

13 posted on 03/10/2002 5:25:27 PM PST by crystalk
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Dershowitz's plan will NOT work.

Dershowitz's plan assumes that the Palestinians are capable of rational thought, have the ability to blame themselves or their terrorist children for the revenge being delivered by the IDF -- and lastly, that the muslims will EVER be satisfied to live in peace with the Jews in Israel.

The fighting is NOT about "justice".
The fighting is NOT about reclaiming occupied "Palestine".
The fighting is exactly what those Arab bastards said it was -- a Jihad, a HOLY war.
It's all about their cultist religion that requires them to hate and kill non-muslims.

The ONLY way to end this war, is for one side to be bled white. One side must be so horribly defeated and diminished, that they can no longer be a threat to the "winner"..

The fighting will go on until one side decides it loves their children more than they hate their enemy.
Semper Fi

19 posted on 03/10/2002 8:02:02 PM PST by river rat
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Mr. Dershowitz is making sense (finally)

The notion of leveling Palestinian villages is not a new one. Tom Friedman in "From Beirut to Jerusalem" says some new settlements in the occupied territories are already built on leveled villages.

Dershowitz's plan is also built on a fatal flaw--that Arafat is in control. He's not. No one is. Arafat couldn't stop the bombings/shootings even if he wanted to.

22 posted on 03/10/2002 9:17:17 PM PST by DentsRun
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