[sinkspur]

The assumption that there is no difference between a "gay" celibate and a "stright" celibate has just been shown to us all too clearly.

What's IS the difference, Robby, if they are both celibate? How do you know who is gay and who is straight in the priesthood, if they are both celibate? One likes striking floral arrangements and the other doesn't?

[RobbyS]

How do you know who is gay and who is straight in the priesthood, if they are both celibate? Well, one thing is sure, your won't find t out by giving them psychological tests or running them by a shrink. With their presuppositions, the shrinks are more likely to weed out the straight guys. The big thing is the "IF" Maybe we tempt them with pretty women and the guys who behave normally we keep? :-).

[Jim Noble]

>>What's IS the difference, Robby, if they are both celibate? How do you know who is gay and who is straight in the priesthood, if they are both celibate? <<

This question, very well put, is the heart of the matter.

Prior to the "delisting" of homosexuality as a mental disorder by the APA in 1972, the question "what IS the difference" was thought to be clear.

Now, sinkspur, you and many others have found clarity on the other side of the question-"there IS no difference".

I honestly am not sure about this-but you may be wrong.

[Domestic Church]

"What's IS the difference?"

One can offer up in sacrifice a "good"(marriage & family) in order that a greater good(chaste celibacy of the Priesthood) is attained while the other is unable due to psychological disorder to reach that level of sacrifice.