(2) Your vile, obscene reply to sinkspur proves your intent. Despicable.
Both your points elude me.
(1) As I said, neither I nor anyone I know was ever propositioned by a priest. To most people such a thing is unthinkable. Yet apparently such goings on are happening every day. The fact that you weren't propositioned by any nuns is hardly much of a comment on the situation. The notion that fringe men would engage in a deviant, abusive type of behavior but fringe women would not engage in deviant, abusive behavior is childish and thoughtless and further isolates the victims of women who do engage in such behavior.
(2) The idiot said he thought I was making stuff up! I put up a link to a book that is so famous book stores on the north side of Chicago classed it as a "local best seller" and the idiot accused me of making stuff up. Screw him. My reply was measured, tame and downright pleasant compared to what he deserved.
(extra) The issue of lesbian abuse is a remarkable topic because it is not only taboo to discuss in "normal" society -- as we've seen in this thread -- but even within the gay community the issue is hardly ever spoken of. That's one reason actual numbers are hard to come by.
But at least some people are trying to get past the knee jerk denial phase. For instance:
| Amazon Editorial Reviews From Booklist Perhaps the most isolated crime victims are lesbian and bisexual survivors of woman-to-woman sexual violence. Multifaceted sexual-identity issues combine with shame and institutionalized heterosexism to make society unable to acknowledge such assaults. The legal system, women's support services, and the lesbian community are just beginning to name such behaviors, let alone confronting and dealing with them. Women's studies professor Girshick breaks new ground as she plumbs the experiences and thoughts of 70 women, gleaned from a nationwide U.S. survey and in-depth interviews. She documents the women's responses to the violence, whether they received or were denied aid, and whether silence was imposed on them. Her insightful and provocative work well may stir controversy even as it sheds light on a previously shadowed subject. Dedicated to "those who are still silenced," the book also powerfully explores the need for community and such preconceived notions and myths as lesbian utopia. A worthy addition to the sociology of violence in women's lives.Book Description A woman raping another woman is unthinkable. This is not how women behave, society tells us. Our legal system is not equipped to handle woman-to-woman sexual assault, our women's services do not have the resources or even the words to reach out to its victims, and our lesbian and gay communities face hurdles in acknowledging its existence. Already dealing with complex issues related to their sexual identities, and frequently overwhelmed by shame, lesbian and bisexual survivors of such... |
"Woman-To-Woman Sexual Violence : Does She Call It Rape? (The Northeastern Series on Gender, Crime, and the Law)," by Lori B. Girshick |
At least let's learn a little something for the tribulations everyone is enduring from the uncovering of the priest scandals. Pretending something ISN'T or CAN'T be going on is just a way of 1) burying your head in the sand; and 2) ensuring there will be further victims of the monsters your denial has enabled.
Mark W.