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N.C. lawmakers face tough choices on school spending (BOHICA!)
Durham Herald-Sun (Durham, NC) ^ | May 13, 2002 | Scott Mooneyham, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 05/13/2002 7:49:37 AM PDT by Constitution Day



N.C. lawmakers face tough choices on school spending

By SCOTT MOONEYHAM, Associated Press Writer
May 13, 2002   9:29 am

RALEIGH, N.C. -- For months, Gov. Mike Easley has been saying he wants to protect the classroom while lawmakers put together a state budget for the next fiscal year.

It's a task that some legislators say will be daunting or even impossible, given that most members of the General Assembly seem unwilling to broach the subject of a broad tax hike for a second straight year.

As Easley prepares his budget proposal, the state faces a $1.5 billion budget shortfall in the current fiscal year. That means the starting point for the next fiscal year will have to be less, and a sluggish economy will force growth in tax collections to be revised lower.

In short, budget architects will have to find well over $1 billion in agency cuts as they craft next year's state spending plan, unless they get some additional revenue from somewhere.

Meanwhile, legislative budget writers are moving ahead with their own budget plans while eagerly awaiting to see how Easley will accomplish his goal of no cuts in the classroom.

The numbers over which they are poring show how overwhelming the task is. Consider this:

-- $8.3 billion of the state's $14.5 billion general fund budget goes toward public school, community college and university education.

-- $5.9 billion of that money goes to the public schools.

-- Without any increases to student-teacher ratios, the state is prepared to spend $2.27 billion on teacher salaries next year. The figure represents 15.6 percent of the state's general fund budget. It does not include pay for central office administrators, principals, teaching assistants, clerks or janitors.

-- The state pays out $347 million to 28,000 teaching assistants, making their pay a leading item in the public school budget. But cutting any of those positions would also amount to a "cut in the classroom."

"It's very difficult," said Sen. Walter Dalton, co-chair of the Senate subcommittee that oversee education spending. "Over 90 percent of the education budget is personnel. It's not all teachers, but even outside the classroom it's people who make the schools go."

Because personnel is so much a part of the picture, legislators have little to gain by trimming other items in the schools' budget. For example, a proposal to cut textbook outlays by 10 percent would save just $7 million. Another to cut other classroom supplies by 10 percent saves just $6.6 million.

That barely gets the bucket damp when you are searching for $695 million in cuts, as education budget writers have been instructed to do.

On the other hand, increasing class size by one student in all grades would eliminate 2,651 positions and save $119 million.

That kind of cut is not something any legislator would relish. And it would take place even as Easley talks about lowering class sizes in elementary grades.

Just last year, at Easley's urging, lawmakers spent $12 million lowering class size in kindergarten. This year, they are scheduled to spend $26 million.

But increasing class size and eliminating teaching positions is an option legislators are discussing.

They are also looking at cutting out teaching assistants except in kindergarten through second grade, eliminating roughly 4,000 jobs and saving $80 million.

Other proposals call for eliminating the jobs of 1,146 vocational education instructors, saving $56 million, and cutting the positions of jobs of out 1,590 custodian and clerical workers, saving $38.7 million.

"I don't think anything is off the table. We have a budget situation that's got to be addressed. We can't run up deficits," Dalton said.

But after years of education reforms and boosting teacher salaries, there is little doubt that teaching cuts will be the last item on legislators' list.

Still, squeezing schools -- through other personnel -- won't be so far down.

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"On the other hand, increasing class size by one student in all grades would eliminate 2,651 positions and save $119 million.
That kind of cut is not something any legislator would relish.
And it would take place even as Easley talks about lowering class sizes in elementary grades."

In other words, let's not annoy the powerful teachers' lobby that got us elected!

1 posted on 05/13/2002 7:49:37 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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2 posted on 05/13/2002 7:50:18 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
Notice that encouraging parents to send their kids to private school is off the table. I guess smaller class sizes really isn't that important.
3 posted on 05/13/2002 7:51:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Constitution Day
North Carolina, the sh-theel state that elects local politicians no different than those of New York except for an accent.
4 posted on 05/13/2002 7:51:43 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Constitution Day
If the good people of N.C. keep electing these folks to the legislature, then I see no reason why they shouldn't expect to have to pay for their grand schemes.
5 posted on 05/13/2002 7:55:33 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: AppyPappy
I guess smaller class sizes really isn't that important.

It's not.

Preserving the present cadre of teachers & assistants is.
Mentioning "private schools" or - God forbid! - "homeschooling" to a member of the education bureacracy is like garlic to a vampire.

6 posted on 05/13/2002 7:56:33 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day
You know one day, hopefully God willing and the river don't rise, we could find just one stinking politician in this state that would run for governor without pandering to the d#mn NCAE. Even Jim 'Wishywashy' Martin kissed their tail. And what's worse is that the candidates don't realize that some of the educators in public schools don't even belong to or like the NCAE
7 posted on 05/13/2002 8:03:02 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Constitution Day
$119,000,000 divided by 2651 equals $44888. Beginning teachers or assistants even after account for FICA and healthcare do not make that much. Where is monye going?
8 posted on 05/13/2002 8:17:42 AM PDT by Pamlico
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To: Pamlico
25% high payed Administrators that get $250,000 as a guess and the rest get $20,000.

Math you gota love it.

9 posted on 05/13/2002 8:41:56 AM PDT by Baseballguy
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To: Constitution Day,all
I am so having a bad day. I HATE NC SCHOOLS!!!!! I just came back from juvenile court on a case where my son was sexually harassed and assaulted in school. The DA didnt have his facts together, nor had called proper witnesses. The perps atty said that we didnt like black people and that was why we filed. It was so CRAP! Then they had an school official perjure himself on the stand. I have proof because in a deposition he stated under oath the exact opposite of what he stated on the stand today. I just dont know what to do. NC schools can just kiss my you know what!
10 posted on 05/13/2002 9:21:46 AM PDT by mini_teacup
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To: mini_teacup
Don't feel too bad...you'll read similar stories about Texas schools next year. The drumbeat for a state income tax has just begun, and it's coming from Democrats and RINOs alike. The difference here in Texas is that the legislature (thankfully) meets every two years.

Legislators are already throwing in the towel on budgetary matters, as evidenced by the posted article.

11 posted on 05/13/2002 9:41:59 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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I live in the Old North State, my fiancee is a teacher of more than half a decade, and my father and I have followed NC educational policies for over 10 years, so I know a bit about the current situation.

The amount of waste in the system, no documented in the article, is immense. But I'll only bring to light one point that is never covered by the media: special ed teachers.

Because of an overwhelmingly democratic house/senate/governors, and the total lack of leadership from the rare RHINO governor, the laws surrounding educational spending in this state are truly insane.

A child, no matter how disabled, even if they have no meaningful contact with the outside world above a vegetative state, is required to have a place in public school. No one mentions it, and teachers are threatened with firing if they talk about it or photograph these 'students'. When people throw these 'class size' figures around, they are talking about averages, not the genuine median class size. There is one special 'teacher' for every two or three of these kids. This insanity is legally mandated!

What I haven't detailed would fill a book: The gutting of the charter school system, school principals holding down two or three positions in order to draw six-figure salaries, the immensely bloated salaries of the education hierarchy (i.e. everything above the pricipal level), the nineteenth century purchasing system, the bizarre mandates against local communities voluntarily spending more to improve the quality of schools, the push to allow illegal immigrants to pay in-state tuition, the million dollar excursions on the taxpayers money for 'conferences' to the bahamas or disneyworld, etc.

Forget 9/11. We should find whoever is responsible for this madness and bomb them!

12 posted on 05/13/2002 9:58:04 AM PDT by WileyC
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To: mini_teacup
I wish I could offer some sage advice, but that sounds like a classic tactic of such shysters.
These lawyers get people to commit perjury and then they drag "red herrings" in front of the jury that have nothing really to do with the case, such as calling you "racists" in so many words.

Isn't the deposition part of the evidence?

13 posted on 05/13/2002 12:48:41 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: WileyC
My wife's cousin was an aide in a NC public school. One of the students was in such mental shape the child had to have a nurse all day. The child could not speak intelligible language. The child is permanently wheel chair bound and lacks the mental and physical function to control the vehicle. He would scream out for no apparent reason other than he could not help it, or wasn't getting his way. He had to wear a football helmet part of the time so he wouldn’t bash his own brains out. The kid was about 10. He was spoiled in that he knew that he could throw things, scream, etc. with no outcome. He unexpectedly screamed in the cousin’s ear so loudly that she might have permanently lost some hearing ability in one ear. The other kids and teachers had to put up with this in their classroom all day, every day he was present. Mainstreaming. Who do you think got all the attention? How many times was the classroom shut down? And the mother had the gall to threaten all school personnel should her son be disciplined…or anything; lawsuits would be in waiting in the wings. How much did this cost in how many ways for one with no hope? And this is one of many.
14 posted on 05/13/2002 11:28:42 PM PDT by doglot
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To: Clemenza
"North Carolina, the sh-theel state that elects local politicians no different than those of New York except for an accent."

Hey I take offense to that. New York politicians are alot more expensive than the goobers ruining this state.

BTW- Leave the gun, take the cannolis!

15 posted on 05/14/2002 8:59:06 PM PDT by 100%FEDUP
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