Global Warming Models Labeled 'Fairy Tale' By Team of Scientists

CNSNEWS.com ^ | 5/14/02 | Marc Morano

[kattracks]

Washington (CNSNews.com) - A team of international scientists Monday said climate models showing global warming are based on a "fairy tale" of computer projections. The scientists met on Capitol Hill to expose what they see as a dearth of scientific evidence about global warming.

Hartwig Volz, a geophysicist with the RWE Research Lab in Germany questioned the merit of the climate projections coming from the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC.) The IPCC climate projections have fueled worldwide support for the Kyoto Protocol, which aims to restrict the greenhouse gases thought to cause global warming.

Volz noted that the IPCC does not even call the climate models "predictions" and instead refers to them as "projections" or "story lines." Volz said the projections might be more aptly termed "fairy tales."

Monday's luncheon was sponsored by the Frontiers of Freedom Institute and titled "Whatever Happened to Global Warming? Climate Science Does Not Support the Kyoto Protocol."

S. Fred Singer, an atmospheric physicist with the University of Virginia and the Environmental Policy Project, called the IPCC's global warming projections "completely unrealistic."

"Prediction is a very difficult business, particularly about the future," he said.

Singer accused the IPCC of "assuming extreme scenarios of population growth and fossil fuel consumption" and called on the Bush administration to "assemble another team using the IPCC report -- using the same facts" to "write a different summary."

Dr. Ulrich Berner, a geologist with the Federal Institute for Geosciences in Germany, said global temperatures have varied greatly in the earth's history and are unrelated to human activity.

"The climate of the past has varied under natural conditions without the influence of humans," Berner said.

Berner also declared that an extensive analysis of carbon dioxide (C02) concentrations in the ice core of Greenland showed that elevated C02 in the atmosphere does not necessarily lead to temperature increases.

"There are numerous temperature changes which are not mimicked by the CO2 concentration," Berner explained.

"Carbon Dioxide doesn't police climatic changes. Climatic changes have always occurred and will for the future always occur," Berner added.

Singer agreed, stating, "The balance of evidence suggests that there has been no appreciable warming since 1940. This would indicate that the human effects on climate must be quite small."

Singer pointed to the sun as a major culprit in climate change. "The sun is responsible for most, and perhaps all of the short-term climate changes we observe," he said.

Environmental groups were quick to dismiss the scientific skepticism on global warming. Ariana Silverman, a spokesperson for the Sierra Club's Global Warming & Energy program, disputed the panel's claim that climate science does not support the Kyoto Protocol.

"It is very difficult to make that claim. There is a consensus in the scientific community," Silverman said.

Silverman admitted there is room for some skepticism about global warming models because "nobody knows, we don't have god-like abilities [to predict the future.]"

She noted that the Sierra Club believes we need to "cut down on gasses right now and make cars go further on a gallon of gas." Silverman predicted that if no action is taken, there could be "major changes to our climate and changes to our ecosystems with species dying."

"Climate is not a responsible thing for us to be changing," Silverman added.

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[palmer]

Nice article.
Carbon Dioxide doesn't police climatic changes

Human influence has been to increase CO2 but CO2 is a weak greenhouse gas. Humans have not and probably never will cause any warming.

[angkor]

"It is very difficult to make that claim. There is a consensus in the scientific community," Silverman said.

Global Warming Petition Project

Explanation

Listed below are 19,200 of the initial signers

During the past 2 years, more than 17,100 basic and applied American scientists, two-thirds with advanced degrees, have signed the Global Warming Petition.

Signers of this petition so far include 2,660 physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, oceanographers, and environmental scientists (select this link for a listing of these individuals) who are especially well qualified to evaluate the effects of carbon dioxide on the Earth's atmosphere and climate.

Signers of this petition also include 5,017 scientists whose fields of specialization in chemistry, biochemistry, biology, and other life sciences (select this link for a listing of these individuals) make them especially well qualified to evaluate the effects of carbon dioxide upon the Earth's plant and animal life.

Nearly all of the initial 17,100 scientist signers have technical training suitable for the evaluation of the relevant research data, and many are trained in related fields. In addition to these 17,100, approximately 2,400 individuals have signed the petition who are trained in fields other than science or whose field of specialization was not specified on their returned petition.

Of the 19,700 signatures that the project has received in total so far, 17,800 have been independently verified and the other 1,900 have not yet been independently verified. Of those signers holding the degree of PhD, 95% have now been independently verified.

[BlueLancer]

""It is very difficult to make that claim. There is a consensus in the scientific community," Silverman said."

Is he talking about the sun orbiting the Earth or the fact that the Earth is flat? I mean, after all, there was a great consensus in the scientific community for both at one time, opposing such spurious theories as the Earth orbiting the sun and being round at the same time.

[Sam Cree]

""Prediction is a very difficult business, particularly about the future," he said"

Considering how much difficulty science has in predicting even tomorrow's weather.

Global warming is fact (or is it global cooling?), it's just not proven, or even demonstrated, that humanity has much effect on it.

I think the reality is that, like other forms of environmentalism, global warming is used by the Left as a lever to try to force the U.S. into socialism.

[Oldeconomybuyer]

The global warming crowd isn't concerned about science - the issue itself is like a religious belief for the leftwing radical enviornmentalists.

[patriot_wes]

Global warming has nothing to do with science,
It's all about money - our money going to the UN!

[aardvark1]

EXACTLY!!!!!!

[Utopia]

Let me tell a story about a fellow called "Otzi" that dispells the myth of Global Warming.

In the early 1990s, a couple of Austrians were hiking along the base of the Alps. The came across a body. The body looked as if it just died. They notified the authorities. It turns out the body was the perfectly preserved remains of a human, who lived 5,000 years ago. This individual was given the name Otzi from the nearest Alpine town.

Now the Austrians were hiking along an area of the Alps were the snow layer had been gradually receeding - Global Warming - everyone chanted -- until it was realized that Otzi was walking there, too -- that 5,000 years before the advent of man's industrialization, the snow had receded well enough for Otzi to hike in the same spot.

Otzi was injured, Otzi fell, Otzi died was covered in snow and remained that way for 5,000 years and only recently was exposed.

The cycle of nature ...

[marktwain]

So, I couldn't figure it out, was the petition for or against global warming. It didn't say!

[Maelstrom]

You had to look.

It's on the Global Warming Petition.

You're a conservative, go the next step and read the petition itself. :-)

[Maelstrom]

Addendum: You can only read it at the original site.

[bobsatwork]

From the petition: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate."
Regards

[Fresh Wind]

The great thing about computer models is the way they can be tailored to give the desired results. In other words, the "scientists" doing this work already "know" that there is Global Warming and they have assorted climate data to be used as input to their model. So, they just adjust the model so that they get Global Warming as the output given the data they have. Then, they write up a report and go running to the politicians crying for more money. Good news never increases funding. That's why they need a "crisis".

[Jhensy]

Every time there's a warm spell here in New York (even so much as a warm DAY), lefties and media types wring their hands over global warming, so I'm gonna play their game. Someone needs to do this.

IT'S FREAKIN' FREEZING HERE! IT'S MID-MAY, AND HIGHS ARE IN THE FIFTIES! EVIDENCE OF GLOBAL COOLING!

[BlueLancer]

I have proof that global warming exists ...

Right now, it's about 55 degrees here in Central Texas. My research shows that I can guarantee that, by 1400 hours, it will be a heck of a lot warmer.

The unfortunate thing with this research is that it also verifies the theory regarding global cooling. By 2200 hours, it will be a whole lot cooler than it was at 1400.

Maybe I just need more money to fine-tune my research model.

[aruanan]

She noted that the Sierra Club believes we need to "cut down on gasses right now and make cars go further on a gallon of gas."

Go farther. Make cars go farther. Her understanding of atmospheric science is as lamentable as her knowledge of English grammar.

[Publius6961]

Volz noted that the IPCC does not even call the climate models "predictions" and instead refers to them as "projections" or "story lines." Volz said the projections might be more aptly termed "fairy tales."

It has been clear to many of us that this is exactly the case.
"War games" for the eco-idiots.

The need for power, and to control others is the driving force of "global warming"; that, and the desire of the have-nots to share the benefits of civilization without the bother of having to actually work for it.
This is another war that must be addressed as soon as that global epidemic "islam" is dealt with.

[texson66]

To really dig into the issues on GoreBull Warming click on the Tazmanian Devil!

[Publius6961]

During the past 2 years, more than 17,100 basic and applied American scientists, two-thirds with advanced degrees, have signed the Global Warming Petition.

And 95% of whom are total idiots when it comes to climatology, oceanography or weather.

Would you hire a medical doctor to fix your roof? repair your car?

The desire to feel "important" and to save the world is irresistible.
Why do so many of us resist the Fourth Reich?
Climate "purity" is such a powerful magnet...
For idiots.