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Immigration Headache for GOP
United Press International ^ | May 15, 2002 | Peter Roff

Posted on 05/16/2002 5:43:47 PM PDT by Vallandigham

Analysis: Immigration headache for GOP
By Peter Roff
UPI National Political Analyst
May 15, 2002

WASHINGTON, May 15 (UPI) -- If there is one issue that threatens to split the president off from the activist base of the GOP, it's immigration.

George W. Bush has made outreach to the Latino community a central emphasis of his presidency. The first foreign head of state with whom he met was not, as recent tradition holds, the Canadian prime minister. Looking south, Bush met instead with Mexican President Vicente Fox, whom the current administration is working hard to support.

Sunbelt elements within the GOP are not at all comfortable with this strategy. Indeed, their efforts to address the issue go back farther then the current administration.

In recent years, they track back at least as far as former California Republican Gov. Pete Wilson's Proposition 187, a successful ballot initiative to stop illegal immigrants from receiving government benefits. In the years since its passage, and in spite of judicial injunctions delaying its enforcement, Prop. 187 has become political shorthand for portraying the Republicans as anti-immigrant and anti-foreigner.

The president and his political advisers, seeing the enormous and growing Latino population in key Electoral College states like California, Texas, Arizona, and Colorado, want to embrace these newest of Americans and woo them into the Republican voter bloc. The effort to soften the party's image on immigration is a big part of that as are efforts to transform large numbers of illegal immigrants currently in the United States to quasi if not actually legal ones. This has some conservatives seeing red.

The e-mail magazine and Web site GOPUSA, which wants to be "the first source Republicans and conservatives turn to for information," recently ran headlong into the GOP anti-immigration juggernaut.

GOPUSA asks visitors to its Web site to participate in online polls that, while having no value as a scientific measure, provide a window onto what the conservative political community may be thinking.

During the last week of April, participants were asked to identify the "defining issue" in the 2002 mid-term elections. The question was posted on Sunday morning, April 28, and stayed up until the following Saturday morning.

As of Friday night May 3, "the economy" was leading the list at 32 percent, followed by the "war on terror" at 23 percent. "Immigration" was third at 22 percent.

Then, according to Bobby Eberle, GOPUSA's founder and editor, things began to change.

"From Friday night until Saturday morning when the polls closed, hundreds of votes came in for 'immigration' although the wave of votes was clearly not the trend followed throughout the entire rest of the week," Eberle said in a note to subscribers, "I thought it only right to mention that based on the e-mails I received, this issue is of the utmost importance to a great many people across the country."

The activities of other groups seem to independently confirm Eberle's assessment.

On Monday, a conservative grassroots groups called Council for Government Reform e-mailed an "Urgent Action Needed" memo to supporters. The House Appropriations Committee was scheduled to vote the next day on adding "245(i)", a White House-backed illegal immigrant amnesty measure, to the Fiscal Year 2002 supplemental spending bill to provide additional money for the war against terrorism.

"Permanently extending the 245(i) provision is contradictory to its underlying goal of national security," the group says. "It not only allows potentially dangerous illegal aliens permanent access to our country, it also encourages more of them to come take advantage of us, while being unfair to all the legal immigrants who have followed the rules and patiently waited their turn."

The campaign may have worked. The amendment, offered by Rep. Jose Serrano, D-N.Y., was defeated 32 to 27.

The complaints about the national GOP's move toward a more open immigration policy are not confined to the grassroots.

In mid-April, Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., the leader of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, was quoted in the Denver Post saying, "The president is not on our side" on the immigration issue.

The second-term member of the House, a frequent critic of immigration expansion, complained that the president supports an "open door" policy that Tancredo believes could lead to another terrorist attack. "Then the blood of the people killed will be on this administration and this Congress," he was quoted as saying.

There are those within the GOP coalition who support a more open immigration policy. These activists, largely libertarian in their leanings or focused on economic rather than social issues, see increased immigration as beneficial to U.S. long-term economic growth and job creation. They do not, however, carry the same weight as the vocal and powerful anti-immigration bloc within the president's party -- at least among the body politic. The more immigration-friendly view usually dominates on Capitol Hill but, as the fight against 245(i) demonstrates, the president may soon face a political crisis that could badly damage his relations with the party's activist base.

Copyright 2002 United Press International


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; immigrantlist; immigration; republican
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3 posted on 05/16/2002 5:48:49 PM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: Vallandigham
The conservative base is dead set against illegal immigration. This has nothing to do with being anti Hispanic or anti foreigner. Most of us in this country are either the descendants of immigrants or immigrants ourselves. That doesn't mean however that we should open the floodgates and let every one in this country regardless of our carrying capacity, our economic situation, and since 9-11 our national security. Controlled legal immigration yes. Illegal immigration and an amnesty, NO!!! Let's hope the GOP is not too stupid not to be able to learn the difference here.
4 posted on 05/16/2002 5:49:54 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Vallandigham
The president and his political advisers, seeing the enormous and growing Latino population in key Electoral College states like California, Texas, Arizona, and Colorado, want to embrace these newest of Americans and woo them into the Republican voter bloc.

I'm so sick and tired of this pandering I could puke!! It's not about America anymore - it's about which party gets the most votes and survives.

Bush and the RNC won't get one minute of my time or one penny of my money this go around - you can bet the farm on that!!

5 posted on 05/16/2002 5:59:47 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: Vallandigham
If there is one issue that threatens to split the president off from the activist base of the GOP, it's immigration.

Actually, there are a few issues that may split the Presient from the "activist base" and the 'political analyst' author should have a done a better job.

When we look at the major legislation passed....the education bill, the abomination that is the farm bill, and the other proposals to increase the size and cost of government, I painfully conclude that GWB is basically a decent, honest, moral Bill Clinton.

He has done some good things, and is superior in foreign policy of course, but overall he is doing whatever he thinks is needed to preserve his personal chances of re-election. I'm certainly not excited about voting for him again.

Having said this, if he can really privatize social security, that would be a great achievement with long enduring benefits and I would be satisfied, if not completely happy.

We shall see.

6 posted on 05/16/2002 6:08:13 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: Vallandigham
If the Republicans would show some courage and rewrite the laws like motor voter so illegals wouldn't vote (dah), authorize the INS to hire more agents for interior enforcement, stop giving benefits to illegals etc etc, they wouldn't have to get on their knees and beg for votes to stay in power, since the "problem" wouldn't exist. But no, they would rather try to compete with the other party to see who can be better democrats.

All I can say is this country is in for one hell of a ride if what's going on continues.

7 posted on 05/16/2002 6:15:37 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Brownie74
If you don't get votes, you don't win elections. If you don't win elections, you have no influence over policy or legislation.

What part of this is too difficult for you to comprehend?

8 posted on 05/16/2002 6:16:51 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
If you don't get votes, you don't win elections. If you don't win elections, you have no influence over policy or legislation.

If you get votes and win elections, but pretty much do what the others guys would, then what is the point, at least for those who voted for you?

9 posted on 05/16/2002 6:21:30 PM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: hchutch
Open your mind. There's other ways to get the votes. Of course, a big part of that would be to give up the succor of the globalist elites and "libertarians" who want to create bigger markets to benefit a few companies. Tough choice - America, or ...
10 posted on 05/16/2002 6:27:44 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: RJCogburn
"If you get votes and win elections, but pretty much do what the others guys would, then what is the point, at least for those who voted for you?"

You beat me to that reply. Exactly Right!

There's a Headache for them, and it comes from not having Principals. Compromise is fine when basic Principals are NOT at stake. How many times can they be compromised before there is no difference in Parties? We're there now.

11 posted on 05/16/2002 6:27:46 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: hchutch
As my screen name tells you, I'm very fond of Ronald Reagan. But the 1986 amnesty was a mistake, a big one. Any future amnesties would not be a mistake, it would be just plain dumb. The illegals rewarded 16 years ago are voting democratic, and always will. Any future amnestied will do the same, which is why demo operatives like Dick Morris are baiting the Republicans to offer one. And, that's not even counting the millions of their relatives who will come in thanks to unlimited chain migration.

On top of that, there's something called the rule of law. We should not be in the business of rewarding illegal behavior.

12 posted on 05/16/2002 6:28:13 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: RJCogburn; Southack
Let me quote from Southack a while back:

"And what exactly has Bush done since he's been in office to advance the conservative movement?"

GWB killed the Kyoto Treaty on Global Warming, for one.

GWB pulled the U.S. out of the CCCP-U.S. ABM Treaty, for another.

GWB backed and got our National Missile Defense program funded.

GWB Killed the International Criminal Court.

GWB repealed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off electricity production in California and causing electricity rates to spike.

GWB repealed OSHA's new ergonomic regulations that were about to put every home-based business in America out of commission.

GWB appointed Ashcroft and Ted Olsen, who just wrote to the Supreme Court that the 2nd Amendment is an INDIVIDUAL right, not the "collective right" that liberals have maintained for decades.

GWB signed the bill into law that gives pilots the right to arm themselves with firearms, a pleasant pro-gun victory on a national level.

GWB killed the Left-Wing ABA's role in vetting federal judges for Congress.

GWB instituted the first top-down review of our military in years, which concluded (prior to 9/11), that asymmetric attacks were our biggest future threat.

GWB killed the $11 Billion Crusader artillery boondoggle.

GWB killed federal funding of foreign "family planning" activities.

GWB ordered the Justice Department to finally enforce the SCOTUS Beck decision, giving union workers the right to recover any of their union dues that are used for political purposes with which they disagree.

Frankly, if you aren't aware of all that GWB has done to advance the Conservative movement (including implementing steel tariffs in order to encourage European nationalism via trade wars), then you simply aren't Conservative.

Only a liberal could be so blind as to not realize what all GWB has done for our cause (oh, did I mention that GWB got taxes cut twice, once for individuals and another for businesses).

http://bulldogbulletin.lhhosting.com/page36.htm

And quite frankly, it's pretty darn good, all things considered. Given the fact we are fighting a war, and the fact we have obsrtuctionist left-wingnut Dems running the Senate, it's pretty darn good.

Why throw the baby out with the bathwater? Why not instead just toss the Dems out and get a good Senate elected so we don't have to cut so many deals?

13 posted on 05/16/2002 6:32:46 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
If GWB loses his loyal base by morphing into a moderate democrat, he's going to be a one termer like his dad. Is that too hard to comprehend?
14 posted on 05/16/2002 6:33:55 PM PDT by CrossCheck
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To: hchutch
If you don't win elections, you have no influence over policy or legislation.

I won this election and ended up with Jorge Boosh and his co-president Vicente Fox.

I learned a long time ago not to touch a bare wire twice.

15 posted on 05/16/2002 6:34:13 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: Vallandigham
Bush makes a big mistake on this. For one if the illegals really cared about legal status, they would have already applied for legal immigration. Most illegals could care less about US citizenship until they find out they need it for more welfare benefits ---and there are some who are just desperate and really do intend to work here only long enough until they can return to their own homeland. Some are working to save their farms because the Mexican government is doing nothing to help them.
16 posted on 05/16/2002 6:34:48 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Brownie74
"Bush and the RNC won't get one minute of my time or one penny of my money this go around - you can bet the farm on that!!"

So whatever you feel that Bush & Co has done is just Sooo Bad that you would prefer Clinton and Reno instead.
This kind of Propaganda is how Perot was able to get Clinton elected in the first place.

17 posted on 05/16/2002 6:46:44 PM PDT by RS
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To: RS
I don't think they care. They just want to indulge their pipe dreams of "Fortress America", and woe unto any who dare mention reality to them.
18 posted on 05/16/2002 6:49:30 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: hchutch
What is reality to you? That illegals are here to stay, so let's pander to get their votes?

If we really, really, really wanted to, we could remove illegals. The US government doesn't miss a trick when someone is $1.00 off on their income taxes, if they wanted to find and deport illegals they could do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise is the one not living in the real world.

19 posted on 05/16/2002 6:53:51 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
And have you seen what the media did on this 9/11 thing?

Or the "October Surprise?"

Or Iran-Contra?

Or "the photo"?

The media will be all over the massive deportation effort of 10-15 million illegals. They'll make it look like the second coming of the holocaust.

Do you REALLY think they won't do that?

20 posted on 05/16/2002 6:57:18 PM PDT by hchutch
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